This gives me an idea. What it game textures for 3D models were entirely made up of shaders/generative algorithms. The entire game could be rendered with an equation and never have to load assets.
Generative Art Finds Its Prodigy
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#73If you want to understand art since Cezanne, and especially after 1945, you need to understand the modernist idea of the meta-narrative. It works like this -- prior to the loosening up of gesture in painting, the narrative was whatever was depicted. Maybe it was Washington Crossing the Delaware, or Napoleon Crossing the Alps. Pictures told stories directly. Beginning with impressionist painting, and following through…
It’s like when you hear a young pianist play Liszt perfectly or a Rachmaninov piece better than Rachmaninov did, and the critics say, “Well there was no emotion there, no struggle—she has a long way to go.” Bullshit! It was great! Why can’t art just be appreciated itself, without all this “story” baggage?
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#74If you want to understand art since Cezanne, and especially after 1945, you need to understand the modernist idea of the meta-narrative. It works like this -- prior to the loosening up of gesture in painting, the narrative was whatever was depicted. Maybe it was Washington Crossing the Delaware, or Napoleon Crossing the Alps. Pictures told stories directly. Beginning with impressionist painting, and following through…
I’m not an art history major, but why does a work of art require a backstory? Or a meta-story? Why is a screensaver not “real” art? It seems so limiting. That’s a beautiful painting and the painter is very talented, but there is no existential dread evident in the brush strokes, no social commentary on the intersection between class warfare and feminism, so it’s not “real art”. Who makes these rules? It’s like when y…
Because that eliminates the in-group, experts, elite, etc. Hence all the "rules" and terms like "outsider art", etc
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#75This gives me an idea. What it game textures for 3D models were entirely made up of shaders/generative algorithms. The entire game could be rendered with an equation and never have to load assets.
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#76If you want to understand art since Cezanne, and especially after 1945, you need to understand the modernist idea of the meta-narrative. It works like this -- prior to the loosening up of gesture in painting, the narrative was whatever was depicted. Maybe it was Washington Crossing the Delaware, or Napoleon Crossing the Alps. Pictures told stories directly. Beginning with impressionist painting, and following through…
I’m not an art history major, but why does a work of art require a backstory? Or a meta-story? Why is a screensaver not “real” art? It seems so limiting. That’s a beautiful painting and the painter is very talented, but there is no existential dread evident in the brush strokes, no social commentary on the intersection between class warfare and feminism, so it’s not “real art”. Who makes these rules? It’s like when y…
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#77I like Manolo Naon's art, and I am quite fond of creative coding, but something that strikes me when seeing this article comparing his works to Kandinsky, Ernst et. al is that his works are always harmonious, a single idea in action, whereas all these classic artists have conflicts and discord in their works. They deliberately avoided doing things that were simply decorative or pleasant. (Probably they were avoiding…
I've experienced what you're talking about as maybe the fundamental challenge in making computer-based art. Computers love to follow rules. Come up with some interesting rules, and they will spit out interesting pictures/music. It's much much harder to figure out how to tell the computer "okay, but break the rule just a little bit, at the appropriate time". Codifying breaking the rules as its own rule is...well, so f…
It is debatable if any rules are really broken, but using glitches is at least an attempt.
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#78If you want to understand art since Cezanne, and especially after 1945, you need to understand the modernist idea of the meta-narrative. It works like this -- prior to the loosening up of gesture in painting, the narrative was whatever was depicted. Maybe it was Washington Crossing the Delaware, or Napoleon Crossing the Alps. Pictures told stories directly. Beginning with impressionist painting, and following through…
The meta-narrative is great but it's not everything. Personally I'm not very inspired by the Newman piece, and the bit about the masking tape makes it only marginally more interesting to me - it doesn't necessarily tell a story, it just reveals the technique.
Here is a piece of generative art I made [1]. The story is that I saw these tiles on the clearance rack in Ikea, and I figured they could make some nice patterns, and when I laid them out I realized there were many good ones and I couldn't choose just one, so I made a program to simulate changing patterns. However, none of that comes through in the work itself, there aren't really imperfections or human touches, it's based entirely on simple rules. You might easily dump it into the screensaver category, but I find the endless patterns that emerge out of such a system to be compelling. Would be very grateful if you gave it a look and shared your thoughts.
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I feel like you're imposing very strict definitions on what is inherently a very ambiguous or 'loose' field. >Beauty is the goal of art. I don't think so. Lots of paintings are not beautiful, but are very meaningful and artistic. For example, I find many of Frida Kahlo's works to be extremely artistic but not beautiful. >Lyrics are what diminishes music So you think that a song like 'Hurt' (NIN or Cash) is diminished…
> Lots of paintings are not beautiful, but are very meaningful and artistic. Like the GP, you're using a definition of beauty which is not at all standard in the field of aesthetics. If the work is visually meaningful and artistic, while producing a feeling that is in some way sublime, transcendental, revelatory, etc., then that's beauty you're seeing. > you think that a song like 'Hurt' (NIN or Cash) is diminished b…