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Re: Has an uncomfortable truth been suppressed?

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This is headline and article appear to be just a way to sneak a non-mathematical position into questions of supposed mathematical censorship.

True or not, suppressed or not, the claim being described can't be described as a "Mathematical truth". It's a paper in what could be described as theoretical biology and theoretical biology making a point. IE, there's no theoretical math that anywhere near this model - no one's suppressing calculus 'cause they don't like some derivative results.

Re: Has an uncomfortable truth been suppressed?

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This is the Streisand Effect in action. (I am sure there are going to be people in a few years who learn of the Streisand Effect first and then learn about some random washed-up musician responsible for it second.)

Re: Has an uncomfortable truth been suppressed?

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tl;dr: No.

Elaborating slightly: A paper that is related to (but does not directly argue for) an "uncomfortable truth" was published, then unpublished 3 days later and replaced with a different paper. The author of this blog piece tracked down the paper and read it, and it turns out to simply be a bad paper that shouldn't have been published to begin with.

Re: Has an uncomfortable truth been suppressed?

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post #5

tl;dr: No. Elaborating slightly: A paper that is related to (but does not directly argue for) an "uncomfortable truth" was published, then unpublished 3 days later and replaced with a different paper. The author of this blog piece tracked down the paper and read it, and it turns out to simply be a bad paper that shouldn't have been published to begin with.

Being a bad paper, even a "never should have been published", is not sufficient reason for retroactively un-publishing a refereed and published paper. A rebuttal or at worst retraction is the appropriate action in that case.

Re: Has an uncomfortable truth been suppressed?

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There is more going on than this.

It's important to know a bit about the venues in question. Mathematical Intelligencer isn't really a journal at all; it's literally a magazine, carried on the shelves it bookstores. It runs some original research but also poetry and jokes and general cultural coverage.

NYJM is, on the other hand, a serious (if online-only, lower-tier) theoretical mathematics journal.

Ted Hill's paper is light on mathematics. As Joel Fish, an assoc. math prof at UMass Boston described it, it's of the caliber of an undergraduate applied math homework problem. It's also packed with citations to psychology, ev-bio, and current events.

Arguably, Hill's paper was reasonable for Intelligencer. But it had no place whatsoever in NYJM, which basically never runs anything but hardcore proof-heavy theoretical mathematics. In the very most charitable interpretation, Hill's paper is an applied math exercise.

Here's where the plot thickens: apparently, Hill's paper didn't undergo normal peer review at either journal, and, in particular, was fast-tracked in (papers apparently appear in NYJM as they're submitted, not in annual editions) by an editor that vocally shares Hill's politics. In response, I understand that a significant number of NYJM's peer review board threatened to quit --- an understandable response, since Hill's paper is embarrassing in the context of the rest of what NYJM publishes.

I encourage people with strong opinions who haven't done so already to:

1. Read the current version of Hill's paper.

2. Skim the first version of Hill's paper, which had a coauthor and virtually none of the political content subsequent editions had.

3. Skim subsequent versions and notice how and where they introduced political content, and match that up to the dates Hill suggests the paper was submitted, first to M.I. and then to NYJM.

4. Select a few papers at random from NYJM and skim them quickly to get a sense of the venue Hill is angry he was rejected from.

I'm left with the impression that this was an elaborate troll, one NYJM didn't handle well --- but then, that would be difficult, since its editor in chief is out on leave owing to a grave medical problem.

Later

This has been flagged to the nether regions of the HN story rankings, and justifiably so! It's a political controversy! But it's frustrating that the story introducing Hill's side of this in Quillette was at the top of the front page and accumulated hundreds of comments, while an actually-informed story that critically analyzed the paper itself will get no attention at all. Consider that the next time you think about complaining about people flagging politics off the front page. The Quillette story deserved to be flagged.

Re: Has an uncomfortable truth been suppressed?

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post #8

There is more going on than this. It's important to know a bit about the venues in question. Mathematical Intelligencer isn't really a journal at all; it's literally a magazine, carried on the shelves it bookstores. It runs some original research but also poetry and jokes and general cultural coverage. NYJM is, on the other hand, a serious (if online-only, lower-tier) theoretical mathematics journal. Ted Hill's paper…

My take on this is that something is badly wrong in NYJM's editorial office.

Re: Has an uncomfortable truth been suppressed?

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post #5

tl;dr: No. Elaborating slightly: A paper that is related to (but does not directly argue for) an "uncomfortable truth" was published, then unpublished 3 days later and replaced with a different paper. The author of this blog piece tracked down the paper and read it, and it turns out to simply be a bad paper that shouldn't have been published to begin with.

Being a bad paper, even a "never should have been published", is not sufficient reason for retroactively un-publishing a refereed and published paper. A rebuttal or at worst retraction is the appropriate action in that case.

There's apparently a conflict between the editor who essentially snuck the paper into NYJM and the rest of the editorial board, and it occurred some time ago, during a time where the leadership of the journal was changed for other reasons. It's worth paying close attention to the dates in Ted Hill's retelling of the story, and matching them up with his submissions and other events.

Long story short: you're probably right, it probably wasn't handled correctly, but there are mitigating circumstances.

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