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Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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Post by xte »

Personally I drop Chrome few months ago, tired by it's INVOLUTION. I also drop GMail about an year ago for a personal mail (which cost around 20 euros/year) and features standard IMAP and Roundcube instead of the monster WebUI that GMail have since few months.

Also I'm in process to ditch Google contacts on Android (actually sync-ed one-way via Goobook/XML files since vdirsyncer seems unable to sync many contacts) switching to Radicale on home server and DAVDroid on mobile.

For years I say to many ditching GMail&Google in general: you drop a working solution for another equally held by another company with a mission of making money. Now I have to say they were wright, I still drop a company for another but some others are less parasite than Google.

Sorry for my poor English, not my mother-tongue...

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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Post by akerro »

bkfh wrote: post #227

Ever since it came out I started using Firefox' Containers for that purpose and they work like a charm. Maybe something similar exists for Chrome?

The exact idea behind this unwanted feature in Google Chrome is the opposite idea of containers.

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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Post by wyclif »

ivanfon wrote: post #163
amelius wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also, last time I checked the Firefox UI uses more screen real estate, leaving a little less space for the content. The difference with chrome is small, but clearly noticeable. If Mozilla fixes this, then they have an additional user ;)

Perhaps setting the UI density to “compact” will help? I like minimal UI, but Chrome’s feels a bit too minimal. I think Firefox on compact is a perfect balance.

I also completely overlooked that setting, even though I had changed many others away from the defaults. Thanks for pointing it out!

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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Post by eridius »

epicide wrote: post #92
rosser wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find Mail.app to have a terrible UX, but I did try it, thanks. My standing solution is to use one browser to log into big-G services, another to log into FB, and a third for everything else.

If you have a "zero inbox" type approach, I find Mail.app to be serviceable, but to each their own. There are a few others to try. I used Airmail a few years ago. However, be on the lookout for "native" email clients that are really just web gmail wrappers.

I'm a fan of Spark. It's not perfect, but it's the best of the apps I've tried.

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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Post by eridius »

marssaxman wrote: post #152
rosser wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find Mail.app to have a terrible UX, but I did try it, thanks. My standing solution is to use one browser to log into big-G services, another to log into FB, and a third for everything else.

I do the same - I use Safari for Google services (since Apple is unlikely to collude with Google), I use Chrome to browse Facebook (since Google is unlikely to collude with Facebook), and I use Firefox for actually browsing the web.

Why not use Firefox for Facebook as well? If your worry is Facebook tracking you across the web, you can use Firefox Containers to give Facebook it's own container when you're browsing facebook.com.

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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Post by zmw »

beckler wrote: post #136
JoshMnem wrote: post #134

It started with an older version. Logging into Google automatically linked your Google account to the settings page. At least in the last version, clearing your private data (ctrl-shift-delete) no longer deleted Google cookies. To completely log out required manually digging into the advanced settings and then rebooting the browser. Google fundamentally doesn't respect user privacy, and people should use Firefox.

I completely switched whenever FF quantum was released to stable. The experience is amazing. I will say I think chrome dev tools are better though.

I keep hearing how awesome FF quantum is. I always have a copy of FirefoxDeveloperEdition for the occasional compatibility testing, and I keep coming back to it over the last few months, the last time being yesterday, but it just feels as sluggish as ever, whereas Chrome just feels snappier until there are hundreds of open tabs. Am I using it wrong?

Also, Firefox tabs are as ugly as ever (lots of thick lines), and the search bar drop down is cluttered as hell. I thought I’d hate the Chrome 69 tab style, but I got over it in a couple of hours; whereas for Firefox I simply can’t.

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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Post by laggyluke »

srtjstjsj wrote: post #162
ronilan wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You assume that the feature will result in some net benefit for Google (at some potential expanse to users/public) but there's no such guarantee. Historically, the great Google products are made from scratch (or bought early) and stand by themselves. Their not-so-good products or features are the result of some elaborate corporate thinking that comes out under phrases like "Identity consistency between browser and co…

Why is it harmful to log in once to both apps that use the same account in the same browser? Gmail and Calendar already share the same login. Is that hurting anyone?

> Is that hurting anyone?

It's actually hurting me: I'd like to be able to sign into YouTube on an untrusted device without signing into Gmail at the same time.

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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Post by GrayShade »

dwaltrip wrote: post #228
beckler wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I completely switched whenever FF quantum was released to stable. The experience is amazing. I will say I think chrome dev tools are better though.

The biggest feature holding me back from using Firefox is the inability to drag multiple tabs at once. I often "split" a chrome browser window into two this way, or combine two chrome windows into one.

In Nightly you can, using CTRL to select them. It's still a little buggy, though.
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