This kind of chicanery is the reason I won't use Chrome for anything but browsing Facebook.
A while ago I switched to Vivaldi. I have never been happier with a browser.
Last I checked, they still haven't had stabled cross-device tab sync.
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I completely switched whenever FF quantum was released to stable. The experience is amazing. I will say I think chrome dev tools are better though.
The only reason I use chrome is the easy debugger hookup for VSCode. If anyone has any tips on how to get that running with FF, I'm all ears!
This probably won't be a satisfying answer to you, but I've found VS Code and WebStorm to be roughly equivalent in terms of features (although I never have been able to leave WebStorm because of a few features that others would probably consider "bloat").
Debugging in Firefox works great!
https://www.jetbrains.com/help/webstorm/debugging-javascript...
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Personally, I'm going to sign into both anyway. One less thing to sign into saves me time. That makes me happy. I dunno if I'm in the minority or not. But, it's a feature that at least some people find useful, so, I think branding it spyware is unjustified. It's not like it's a keylogger sending my data to who knows where which no reasonable person could ever find useful.
I use Gmail at work. I don’t want it to auto log me in.
I'm curious what the privacy implications are with having a work managed gmail account. While I know that in many cases the 'employer managed gmail' can be read by the employer, it isn't clear whether this also applies to bookmarks and other stuff. Recently chrome has started associating bookmarks with gmail/google accounts (if you are logged into that account) which I have never heard of a browser doing before. Pretty lame if you ask me, and it is spyware.
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#204Someone else said 'your chrome account IS your google account' They are quite right. Google created an identifier that makes email as an id obsolete, and its called GAIA_ID. You can google it. Basically all of their services are keyed off on their universal gmail gaia_id but they planned on using this even beyond gmail but as a 'universal identifier' to track everyone on every service that interacts with google, such…
Only on Hacker News is the fact that a database has a primary key for user accounts evidence of a global conspiracy against humanity. Here's some bad news for you: literally every company with a website and user accounts has the same scheme.
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I completely switched whenever FF quantum was released to stable. The experience is amazing. I will say I think chrome dev tools are better though.
I tend to reach for Firefox's dev tools (or a node REPL) more often these days. Firefox has a much better CSS editor. I will run some dev tools in Chromium but avoid it for browsing. Once I saw that my account was linked to Chrome/Chromium without my permission, I cleared everything out of Chrome and stopped using it as a secondary browser. My secondary browser is now a separate Firefox profile: alias ff='firefox -Pr…
The big feature I'm waiting on in Firefox is live reloading/editing for scripts.
It's a huge advantage to be able to pause a script in Chrome, edit the source code, and have those changes injected back into the script. Chrome will even rewind the stack if I edit a line behind where the script currently is.
I use Firefox for all of my personal browsing and for some of my development. But I really miss that feature.
Edit: that and making it easier to debug Node from Firefox. It's still kind of a pain in that area.
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#206I just switched to Brave yesterday for all my consumer surfing. (I still use Chrome for work because Amazon S3's "Open" link has a glitch in Brave.) Been quite happy so far - it's remarkable how clean and snappy the web is when there are no ads.
The advantage over Firefox is that it's still Chromium, so all those websites that are Chrome-only or have rendering glitches in other browsers still work perfectly.
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I agree, sadly its never that simple. I tried diligently (all in) to use Quantum when it came out, for over a month. It just wasn't stable/fast enough when running a larger number of tabs. I'm hopeful it will get there soon and I can ditch Chrome but its just not there for me, yet.
You might want to try it again. I have over 80 Firefox tabs open in multiple windows, multiple containers, and two Firefox profiles. It's still extremely fast.
Are you using any plugins to achieve this number of open tabs and and still have good performance?
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If you share a computer with someone else, each of you should have your own user accounts. Then each user account will have its own profile data, including which accounts are logged in.
Not sure why you're being so harshly downvoted, Chromium and derivatives have pretty solid profile switching. Doing this would actually be less work than signing out/in to other accounts.
It doesn't solve the problem I brought up - I was asking how to avoid switching profiles if I was sharing one between multiple people. GP's suggestion was to switch profiles.
Suppose I and my partner want to be able to bookmark something and have it show up on both of our phones. Is there a way to do that without sharing a Gmail account? That seems like a pretty common use case to me that was pretty easy to do before Chrome tied them together.
On Firefox, that use case would be trivial. You just sign all your browsers into one account and then use the web normally like you've always done.
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#209It started with an older version. Logging into Google automatically linked your Google account to the settings page. At least in the last version, clearing your private data (ctrl-shift-delete) no longer deleted Google cookies. To completely log out required manually digging into the advanced settings and then rebooting the browser. Google fundamentally doesn't respect user privacy, and people should use Firefox.
I completely switched whenever FF quantum was released to stable. The experience is amazing. I will say I think chrome dev tools are better though.
I've found the dev tools to be equivalent for most things but each has a couple features the other doesn't. I'm often switching between the two when debugging complex issues.
In general I find the UI for manipulating CSS and the DOM easier in Firefox. The Javascript Debugger in Chrome tends to work a little better when jumping in and out of 3rd party libraries, Firefox will just give up trying to break in your code and just dump errors in the console.
Meh... as long as it's not Safari Dev Tools I'm happy.
Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome
#210It started with an older version. Logging into Google automatically linked your Google account to the settings page. At least in the last version, clearing your private data (ctrl-shift-delete) no longer deleted Google cookies. To completely log out required manually digging into the advanced settings and then rebooting the browser. Google fundamentally doesn't respect user privacy, and people should use Firefox.
I completely switched whenever FF quantum was released to stable. The experience is amazing. I will say I think chrome dev tools are better though.
Use a separate Chromium installation for dev tools