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Re: Sperm Count Zero

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Post by zaroth »

vonseel wrote: post #24
zaroth wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I resisted the urge to joke that this finally explains millenials , because it’s exactly that response which leads to the dismissive reactions this trend is being met with. A couple days ago I shared a NYT article with my wife because it was such a strange window into evolving gender standards [1] and the next day a friend of hers shared another story which took it to a whole new level [2]. I could not help but tie i…

How do you guys get past paywalls like #2? Seems increasingly more sites have paywalls and I can’t imagine people are subscribing to multiple news providers.

Sorry, just fixed the link to go direct to The Atlantic where there doesn’t appear to be a paywall.

Re: Sperm Count Zero

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Post by DoreenMichele »

zaroth wrote: post #4

I had heard that sperm counts are dropping. What was news to me was that the decline is continuing, even accelerating, and also the concomitant drop in testosterone levels, starting even in utero. The bit about AGD was also pretty crazy — followed by the bit about men becoming less male . Some fear-mongering there no doubt, but a topic which in this era is more likely to be met with scoffs of “good riddance” rather t…

likely to be met with scoffs of “good riddance”

My first thought was that this may also cast light on the rise of the trans rights movement. If men are becoming less male, surely this relates to so many people saying "I'm really a woman trapped in a man's body." or vice versa.

This may also help explain why trans people are so often met with open hostility as "freaks" etc. No, I am not defending their mistreatment.

But given how charged a topic that is, I imagine bringing it up will get my comment flagged to death, not taken seriously.

I'm a fairly traditionally feminine woman and spent a couple of decades as a homemaker and full-time mom. I am routinely met with open hostility from self proclaimed trans activists, feminists, etc.

I personally like "manly men" and that's also not a PC thing to admit to. So I will suggest it isn't just men the world is saying "good riddance" to. It's also women in some sense.

If you want to argue that, please stop and think before dismissively attacking me. People talk all the time about how gender is a social construct and is not merely the bits between your legs. I stayed home with my kids and that had a profound impact on how I think about many things. And the way I think is alien to that of career women and they are frequently openly hostile to it.

Re: Sperm Count Zero

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Post by zaroth »

300bps wrote: post #17

studies with sample collection only after 1995—and the slope was even steeper. So that could not explain the decline we see after 1995.” That’s about the time high speed pornography became available en masse. Coincidence?

My initial thought when I read the “the problem is right in front of us” interlude was, oh they’re gonna blame PornHub! Since masterbation decreases sperm count.

But when they got into the other physiological symptoms, that definitely isn’t gonna explain it.

Re: Sperm Count Zero

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Post by bassman9000 »

But as it turns out, no surprise: men first. Second instance of no surprise: We're going to take the women down with us.

Why. Why this self hate. What have we done to deserve this incredible vicious hatred?

Re: Sperm Count Zero

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Post by ggggtez »

schoen wrote: post #6
qubax wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which has been posted about on HN numerous times already. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14855796 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16245784 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15061484 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15109328 It's amazing that even gq is now spamming HN.

This submission was made by a 5-year HN user with 14000 karma. Although I don't know if you've been more active with a different handle, which is certainly very possible, the account whose submission you're complaining about has been active 27 times as long as yours and has 91 times as much karma as yours... suggesting a history of reasonably good-faith contribution to HN. Edit: it's true that his submissions aren't…

It doesn't matter how much karma someone has. A repost is a repost, and it's ok to point it out.

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Post by stevebmark »

zaroth wrote: post #4

I had heard that sperm counts are dropping. What was news to me was that the decline is continuing, even accelerating, and also the concomitant drop in testosterone levels, starting even in utero. The bit about AGD was also pretty crazy — followed by the bit about men becoming less male . Some fear-mongering there no doubt, but a topic which in this era is more likely to be met with scoffs of “good riddance” rather t…

congrats on the worst take on HN

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Post by Analemma_ »

zaroth wrote: post #4

I had heard that sperm counts are dropping. What was news to me was that the decline is continuing, even accelerating, and also the concomitant drop in testosterone levels, starting even in utero. The bit about AGD was also pretty crazy — followed by the bit about men becoming less male . Some fear-mongering there no doubt, but a topic which in this era is more likely to be met with scoffs of “good riddance” rather t…

> a topic which in this era is more likely to be met with scoffs of “good riddance” rather than alarm bells.

I'm not sure about that. The Internet "manosphere" (for lack of a better term; consider it the all-encompassing phrase for both harmless and not-so-harmless subcultures like weightlifting, PUA, redpillers, the alt-right, etc.) seems more obsessed with masculinity than anyone I can recall seeing in previous decades. "Plastics in the water are destroying men" has been a ha-ha-only-serious topic in those circles for a while now and this will only solidify it. For better or worse, there are enough people concerned about this stuff that I doubt it will get handwaved away.

Re: Sperm Count Zero

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Post by alexandercrohde »

zxcvvcxz wrote: post #5

>“What you are seeing in a number of systems, other developmental systems, is that the sex differences are shrinking,” Swan told me. Men are producing less sperm. They're also becoming less male. Is it possible that these phenomena relate to the seemingly explosive rise in transgenderism? Particularly MtF, which is much more common than the reverse. Perhaps for those with already low male:female hormone ratios, if th…

By occam's razor, I have to wonder the same thing. Also it seems there is already some tenuous evidence that being exposed to artificial hormones in-utero can be correlated with transgenderism [1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birth_defects_of_diethylstilbe... - section: sexual differentiation

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