To make it worse, the Chrome account is always user id = 0. You can't have other account logged in first, then log into Chrome -- it will kick out the first account. This breaks all bookmarks that use particular user, i.e. contain /u/1 or /u/2. What a mess.
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Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
A while ago I switched to Vivaldi. I have never been happier with a browser.
Why do you like Vivaldi? I'm using it but am fairly ambivalent.
I like the bookmarks, that I was able to customise it extensively, the sidebar is very useful and unobtrusive. I do like also that is based on chromium. All in all I feel like it has everything that other browsers have and just a bit more or a bit better.
Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome
#63You didn't say why this is important to you so it comes off as a bit of a complaint for the sake of it. Are you concerned about your web history going to your Google account? You can turn that off. Don't believe that will really turn it off? Then don't believe that Chrome wasn't already logging your web history without your knowledge. Is it sad that respect for privacy has degraded this far? Absolutely. Is the mergin…
> to you so it comes off as a bit of a complaint for the sake of it. People like you really rise my blood pressure. No, it's not important to him/her, bad defaults[1] are important for everyone because they are incorrect design. The correct design is not to synchronize anything before obtaining informed consent. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_pattern
I'm sorry that I raised your blood pressure, and I take your point that I could have worded it better. I (admittedly quite poorly) attempted to push OP to get more specific. That was my only intention.
I completely agree about the dark pattern and I think that's a really good point that I didn't consider at all in what I said.
However, my argument regarding Chrome is that Google carries out tracking so pervasive that it basically doesn't matter any more if they throw a dark pattern like this in the mix. I am still trying to come to terms with how banal this evil has become.
Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome
#64If it's a problem you should stop using both gmail and Chrome. Don't support companies that are anti-user.
Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome
#65You could use Missive to avoid this. It'd let you keep using your gmail account without having to ever log in to gmail in Chrome.
Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome
#66"Google calls the feature "Identity consistency between browser and cookie jar" and a Chrome representative on the official Google Chrome Help Forum confirmed that this is the intended behavior. >This is an intended behaviour if you are using the same Google Account for your Gmail and Chrome. If yes, you'll be signed out of Chrome when you signed out of Gmail account. ... Good news is that it is possible currently to…
Alternatively just get Firefox, use https://ffprofile.com/ once, and stop dealing with Chrome.
Ta-da, no more spyware.
Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome
#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why do you like Vivaldi? I'm using it but am fairly ambivalent.
I like the bookmarks, that I was able to customise it extensively, the sidebar is very useful and unobtrusive. I do like also that is based on chromium. All in all I feel like it has everything that other browsers have and just a bit more or a bit better.
Also the history view is a lot nicer than chrome, which is better than Firefox. Firefox's history pane is borderline unusable (search doesn't sort by last visit, it sorts by day and alpha or something weird like that).
Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome
#68This kind of chicanery is the reason I won't use Chrome for anything but browsing Facebook.
A while ago I switched to Vivaldi. I have never been happier with a browser.
Unfortunately Vivaldi inherits some of Chrome's bullshit, like if you want to print something it will try use Google's awful cloud print thing tied to your account.
It even has the flag for this account-consistency feature. Who knows if it will be enabled - would you even notice if it was?
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#69Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome
#70If it's a problem you should stop using both gmail and Chrome. Don't support companies that are anti-user.
My choice to use gmail was made by my employer.
I like my job.
How am I supposed to pass, again?