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Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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Why is this a problem ?

Now Google can (potentially) associate your browsing history with your identity, whereas before, any read of one's history would be anonymous.

>Now Google can (potentially)

They could do this earlier too. Just needed more recources and still with lesser precision.

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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This causes a few other problems. For example I use Hangouts Chat (chat.google.com) on my Google Apps account, and I also have a personal gmail. Ever since the change I have to log out from my personal gmail to use Hangouts Chat, because it is looking at my Chrome account and telling me that I'm not part of the organization. I can't switch to the Google Apps account at all.

This is why setting up user profiles is handy in chrome. Keep one for work, one for home.

This is why it's handy to just use Firefox.

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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It probably is not a bug Though "Chrome integration" with Google is pointless at best and an awful user experience. I made the mistake of logging in w/ Google on Chrome mobile. Resulting in all my bookmarks being synced on the phone (because of course I want my desktop bookmarks on my phone. Obviously. Thanks Google). This is a mistake I'm not doing again.

Most people do want that, though. They literally want Google to sync everything for them. Makes sense to me, I don't see your POV to be super common, honestly, except maybe amongst the die hard tech people of hn and such.

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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Why on earth are you using chrome if you cared about that kind of stuff so much? No,it isn't a bug. It has always been that on android,using chrome browser or the youtube app meant that whatever google account was used in play store is also used to log you into google both on on chrome,yt,maps,etc... They just brought that feature to desktop,I suppose now you'll be logged into whatever google account last used? This…

> It has always been that on android,using chrome browser or the youtube app meant that whatever google account was used in play store is also used to log you into google both on on chrome,yt,maps,etc... That is setting up a system-global login, and having apps use it. That is very different, nearly opposite, from logging into a web page and having that intercepted and turned into a more global login.

They see chrome as the system/OS with users leaving it very rarely(chromeos is the ideal chrome setup). If you look at chrome as the OS and tabs/chromeapps as the apps,it makes sense.

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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Someone else said 'your chrome account IS your google account' They are quite right. Google created an identifier that makes email as an id obsolete, and its called GAIA_ID. You can google it. Basically all of their services are keyed off on their universal gmail gaia_id but they planned on using this even beyond gmail but as a 'universal identifier' to track everyone on every service that interacts with google, such as tying the gaia_id to the apple id, facebook id

You guys really don't get it do you? Google is oceania, it's five eyes / cia-nato and they wanted to have a 'global identifier' to identify everyone on the planet. If they haven't already achieved it (likely they have) then it's something they're aiming for.

google is a technofascist information monopoly, and given that they've been cenosring people politically on youtube by demonetizing and deplatforming them, that should give you pause, in case your opinons 'just so happen to evolve with new information that disagrees with the reigning silicon valley biased cult of opinion called 'the establishment''

sorry I went political here, but software is becoming VERY political. Things in firefox break more and more every day, forcing you to use chrome. FF widevine support breaks all the time, oops there goes NETFLIX and HULU and AMAZON on your linux platform... this kind of thing. Google is widevine, so you better be politically aligned with google or else....no DRM check for you, no video for your customers

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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Why is this a problem ?

Now Google can (potentially) associate your browsing history with your identity, whereas before, any read of one's history would be anonymous.

Potentially? They already have. Now they’re just linking things because they’re wanting easier and convenient access as well as “terms of service” clarity.

I think it’s safe to say google etc don’t require cookies to track you. And they’ve already mapped out any secondary gmail accounts you have. And they have your complete browser history joined from all devices they’ve stitched into your shadow profile which you can’t delete or access. Incognito mode is only good for the little spy guy graphic.

This is the 21st century - all activity is logged for future sale.

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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You are not essentially logging into Chrome, well yes you are but only for local purposes and that's not so bad... the link is only local, it will not be syncing any data without your consent, it used to mean that.. and Google DID do very poorly presenting this version of their browser (proven by other posts here)

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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You didn't say why this is important to you so it comes off as a bit of a complaint for the sake of it. Are you concerned about your web history going to your Google account? You can turn that off. Don't believe that will really turn it off? Then don't believe that Chrome wasn't already logging your web history without your knowledge. Is it sad that respect for privacy has degraded this far? Absolutely. Is the mergin…

> to you so it comes off as a bit of a complaint for the sake of it.

People like you really rise my blood pressure. No, it's not important to him/her, bad defaults[1] are important for everyone because they are incorrect design. The correct design is not to synchronize anything before obtaining informed consent.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_pattern

Re: Tell HN: Using Gmail? You will be force logged into Chrome

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I wish I could just have multiple Chrome installs segregated from each other for different purposes.

I used to use Firefox for work and chrome for personal stuff. My new employer uses Google's business apps so it is easiest in Chrome....but that knocks out my two browsers at once system.

Often I'll need something I saved to drive (sample code, doc, something) or bookmarked in my personal account that suddenly was relevant to work.... swapping logins is a pain....

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