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Re: The cult of WeWork

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Can anyone recommend a "coworking space" [0] for people who don't like coworking spaces? I like to work on my own independent projects, preferably at a place that isn't my apartment, but I just can't stand WeWork-style coworking spaces, which I find to be a mix of equal parts motivational speech, "networking," pretension, and pretend work. It just seems so fake to me. Am I being closed-minded? [0]: I live in NYC fwiw…

Any library?

Re: The cult of WeWork

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Can anyone recommend a "coworking space" [0] for people who don't like coworking spaces? I like to work on my own independent projects, preferably at a place that isn't my apartment, but I just can't stand WeWork-style coworking spaces, which I find to be a mix of equal parts motivational speech, "networking," pretension, and pretend work. It just seems so fake to me. Am I being closed-minded? [0]: I live in NYC fwiw…

Depending on your hours and your location, Spacious[1] has worked for me (briefly). Good for "office" daytime hours when you want to work in sync with (but not actually "with") other day workers. Spacious was very useful as a parent in a small flat during summer when the children were off school.

Spacious also comes out cheaper per month than other co-working services because by design you are only restricted to certain hours of working (i.e. no 24x7 access).

[1] https://www.spacious.com/

Re: The cult of WeWork

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Can anyone recommend a "coworking space" [0] for people who don't like coworking spaces? I like to work on my own independent projects, preferably at a place that isn't my apartment, but I just can't stand WeWork-style coworking spaces, which I find to be a mix of equal parts motivational speech, "networking," pretension, and pretend work. It just seems so fake to me. Am I being closed-minded? [0]: I live in NYC fwiw…

> motivational speech, "networking," pretension, and pretend work

This.

I'm in the same boat, my company has some space in one in London. It's exactly as you describe plus noisy. I really can't figure out what the people around us do all day as they always seem to chatting. Fortunately we're able to work from home, which I've taken to doing more recently, especially as the beer tends to almost always be out by the time I finish work.

Re: The cult of WeWork

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Can anyone recommend a "coworking space" [0] for people who don't like coworking spaces? I like to work on my own independent projects, preferably at a place that isn't my apartment, but I just can't stand WeWork-style coworking spaces, which I find to be a mix of equal parts motivational speech, "networking," pretension, and pretend work. It just seems so fake to me. Am I being closed-minded? [0]: I live in NYC fwiw…

Companies like Regus have private office space. Never have had any need for them personally as I'm fine with working from home. But I have known people who do.

Re: The cult of WeWork

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Am I extremely out of the loop by just thinking that it's a hot desk company that rolls up all the expenses of the office adds 10%-25%, throws in some booze and lunches and says it's changing the world?

It also forgets the other services it handles for you, for example someone staffs a mailroom, others clean the bathrooms and yet others keep water and coffee ready. They also provide security systems (cameras, keyfobs, etc). All of these are things a new business would have to build out and maintain in their own office.

Re: The cult of WeWork

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I lose so much respect for people like this.

I don't want to offend Americans, but this is mostly an American thing and it's not just corporate: it's politics, religion, NGOs, entertainment, news - everywhere. (America literally invents it's own religions!)

The scariest part is when you meet true believers, those not just 'playing the game' but are really on the koolaid.

I believe this is because in America, people don't have quite as much of a cultural foundation to buy into, or rather, the local culture might be sparse, or unappealing. In non-American Western cultures and certainly Japan - there are establishment role models for people to look up to, across the spectrum in business, politics, nobility, etc. and there are tons of accepted cultural norms in sports, the arts, culture, cuisine etc.. There are more 'established ways' about everything from office culture, to manners, to politics, to religion. It's as though there are fewer 'seekers' perhaps because people are more grounded in their identities. Paradoxically this leaves less room for true change to happen because, in a way innovation often comes about when there's a little bit of kool-aid in the mix.

You can see this with Nike's recent commercialization ostensible social justice movements, or even with some of Steve Job's old ads. The one with Gahndi in it ... 'memba that? So funny.

I wish De Tocqueville were still alive to give us an updated view on things.

Re: The cult of WeWork

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Can anyone recommend a "coworking space" [0] for people who don't like coworking spaces? I like to work on my own independent projects, preferably at a place that isn't my apartment, but I just can't stand WeWork-style coworking spaces, which I find to be a mix of equal parts motivational speech, "networking," pretension, and pretend work. It just seems so fake to me. Am I being closed-minded? [0]: I live in NYC fwiw…

Any library?

The problem with working out of libraries and similar spaces is that you have to jump outside (or wherever) to do phone calls. If that isn't part of your routine, not an issue obviously. I do sometimes work out of a library but I end up having to move elsewhere to do calls a few times during a typical day.

Re: The cult of WeWork

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post #20

I work at a WeWork office in the East Bay. My impression of WeWork events is that a small minority attends them and a slightly larger minority goes just long enough to swipe some free food (I would never ). My main complaints are that the office is noisy and people seem to think it's acceptable to eat lunch in the shared workspace, also the keycards are terrible and usually require 3-4 attempts to open any door. As f…

I don't get it, what's wrong with eating in a shared workspace? I don't work in one, but it seems like a "normal" thing to do.

Re: The cult of WeWork

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Can anyone recommend a "coworking space" [0] for people who don't like coworking spaces? I like to work on my own independent projects, preferably at a place that isn't my apartment, but I just can't stand WeWork-style coworking spaces, which I find to be a mix of equal parts motivational speech, "networking," pretension, and pretend work. It just seems so fake to me. Am I being closed-minded? [0]: I live in NYC fwiw…

> motivational speech, "networking," pretension, and pretend work This. I'm in the same boat, my company has some space in one in London. It's exactly as you describe plus noisy. I really can't figure out what the people around us do all day as they always seem to chatting. Fortunately we're able to work from home, which I've taken to doing more recently, especially as the beer tends to almost always be out by the ti…

Regus rents office space, conf rooms and mail drops in nearly every major city. It's like a gym membership more than an Uber meets a cult https://regus.com

For 9x5+, I recommend leasing/renting a desk or office privately because Regus wants an arm/leg at their rates.

Re: The cult of WeWork

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Can anyone recommend a "coworking space" [0] for people who don't like coworking spaces? I like to work on my own independent projects, preferably at a place that isn't my apartment, but I just can't stand WeWork-style coworking spaces, which I find to be a mix of equal parts motivational speech, "networking," pretension, and pretend work. It just seems so fake to me. Am I being closed-minded? [0]: I live in NYC fwiw…

The library?
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