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Tesla Accounting Chief, HR Head Resign on the Same Day; Stock Plunges

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So the headline is that the CFO is resigning, yet there's a huge picture of the photogenic HR chief(?), who, as a side-story, is 'not returning'.

I feel manipulated. Also that this publication should be doing a bit more investigation and a bit less pontificating.

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#12
post #7

IMO, they should fire musk, slow down their blue-sky research projects, rip autopilot out of the cars, and just build "boring" luxury electric cars with huge profit margins and rake in cash.

I don't think they should fire him, but he should most definately do the un-american thing: work a sane amount of hours and go on vacation every now and then.

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And their Chief People Officer, is not coming back from her leave. From the outside it looks like Telsa is about going to go into a tough winter like moment. They are almost losing by winning. They are at capacity in their Fremont factory but still not making a profit. They need to start designing and building out manufacturing facilities for their next car and the help bolster Model X manufacturing. Stop and think f…

Maybe that’s his backup plan if it doesn’t work out... use a BoringCo drill to “accidentally” trigger an earthquake, collect insurance money, funnel it all into SpaceX and launch himself to Mars.

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post #6

Non-amp URL: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-07/tesla-chi... Better formatting, no hideously pixelated photos.

And the next article, when I kept scrolling, showed Musk smoking a joint and then holding a flamethrower!

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And their Chief People Officer, is not coming back from her leave. From the outside it looks like Telsa is about going to go into a tough winter like moment. They are almost losing by winning. They are at capacity in their Fremont factory but still not making a profit. They need to start designing and building out manufacturing facilities for their next car and the help bolster Model X manufacturing. Stop and think f…

They can't afford any capex on new factories though. They are extremely close to breaching covenants on their debt and personally can't understand why they are not raising equity money as their stock price, despite Musk's crazy antics, is holding up well.

Their stock price has been highly volatile in the last year. It's "holding up," but only by the hairs on its teeth. They're hovering very close to their 52 week low when the rest of the market is having a banner year.

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#16
I'm not losing optimism because of this. Musk fits right into the current political & cultural trajectory and the Tesla brand is sleek & timeless. The media is framing Musk's flaws (Twitter insults, weed & booze) as a bad thing, but outside of the media, people do not care about such things nearly as much. It just requires a few years of optimization and the cars are going to be en par with established brands.

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#17

So the headline is that the CFO is resigning, yet there's a huge picture of the photogenic HR chief(?), who, as a side-story, is 'not returning'. I feel manipulated. Also that this publication should be doing a bit more investigation and a bit less pontificating.

> yet there's a huge picture of the photogenic HR chief(?)

The photo was tiny in the original article. For some reason the AMP version has been posted, and it blows all the pictures up.

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And their Chief People Officer, is not coming back from her leave. From the outside it looks like Telsa is about going to go into a tough winter like moment. They are almost losing by winning. They are at capacity in their Fremont factory but still not making a profit. They need to start designing and building out manufacturing facilities for their next car and the help bolster Model X manufacturing. Stop and think f…

I have a friend who bought a Tesla and is now asking for a buy-back. His experience has convinced me the negative hype isn't all just shorts propagandizing and "Musk fatigue." This company has huge, huge problems.

When he first got the Tesla it had huge body panel alignment problems. Eventually these were fixed, but it took too long and was difficult to get Tesla to fully acknowledge them.

After that he had a range of little annoying problems, many of which were likely software bugs, but then he (actually his GF) experienced something in autopilot mode known on the Tesla forums as "shadow braking" -- the car braking hard on the highway because it seems to see the shadow of an overpass and think it's a wall. This is extremely dangerous. It was on the I-405 (SoCal) going 70-80mph, and such a thing could easily cause a rear end collision.

At that point they're starting the process of returning the car. Not only have there been many problems including a major safety issue, but Tesla has apparently been evasive and difficult getting them fixed.

I hate to type this because I love most of what Musk has done and I really credit Tesla with helping get the ball rolling on EVs. EVs are tipping now, and I'm not sure that would have happened without Tesla. It at least would likely have taken longer. But... it is what it is. I'm just telling the truth.

Reading between the lines a little Musk seems horribly burnt out. If I could give him advice I'd say pass Tesla to someone with more experience in the car industry, start gracefully exiting Tesla, take a break and do a little personal inventory, and then focus 100% on SpaceX. The latter is the far more important of the two companies and is in much better shape. I also feel like it's his real true love.

If Telsa can't be righted its fate will probably be purchase (or purchase of its assets in bankruptcy) by another car company. That's fine. As I said: EVs are tipping.

Finally to speculate a bit... I wonder if Tesla is an indirect victim of the latest wave of AI hype? It seems like they were on the right track until they decided to go all in and shift their major focus from making a great electric "driver's car" to self-drive or bust. Self-drive probably consumed insane amounts of capital, and has greatly harmed the company's reputation by causing serious accidents because it is clearly not ready.

The shadow braking thing really reveals how primitive "AI" actually is-- this is something a bumblebee would not do, and its brain consumes milliwatts of power. From what I've read self-drive is really just object recognition combined with spatial mapping, path finding, and a lot of heuristics. The latter is what worries me. "Expert systems" can't capture complex problem domains due to the exponential nature of a combinatorial explosion. There will always be edge cases. Needless to say we will not be uploading consciousness anytime soon, nor will fully autonomous AIs be taking over the world.

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I think Elon Musk is a genius and I don't use that word lightly. I think he's also one of the boldest men that ever came down the pike. Put me down as saying I've always been afraid of the guy whose IQ is 190 and he thinks it's 250. I like to think there’s a little of that risk with Elon - Charlie Munger (in 2014)

Re: Tesla Accounting Chief, HR Head Resign on the Same Day; Stock Plunges

#20

So the headline is that the CFO is resigning, yet there's a huge picture of the photogenic HR chief(?), who, as a side-story, is 'not returning'. I feel manipulated. Also that this publication should be doing a bit more investigation and a bit less pontificating.

It's much less huge on the non-amp site: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-07/tesla-chi... — I got a hunch that's what I'm seeing b/c that image was incredibly blurry. I have no idea why people link to the googlified versions of websites, they're often barely readable.
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