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Ancient farmers spared us from glaciers but changed Earth's climate: study

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Re: Ancient farmers spared us from glaciers but changed Earth's climate: study

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Anyone fascinated by this article, I highly suggest reading Sapiens by Yuval Noah Harari. I just recently picked it up after seeing it recommended on a couple of threads here and it did not disappoint. Humans have been affecting ecology for a long long time.

If you are like me, you're probably wondering what you can do to mitigate some of the effects, while legislation and societal action is important. I also recommend checking out permaculture. Portland state has a great free online course [0]. I like to think of permaculture as ecosystem building, which you can do on a micro level. Enough microecosystems change the larger surrounding ecosystem.

[0] https://open.oregonstate.edu/courses/permaculture/

Re: Ancient farmers spared us from glaciers but changed Earth's climate: study

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Rises the question which temperature is the "right" one. Assuming we can control climate change at some point in the future

Like having a clima-council which votes to lower or rise the temperature. Would definetly cause conflicts between very hot and cold nations

Re: Ancient farmers spared us from glaciers but changed Earth's climate: study

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Rises the question which temperature is the "right" one. Assuming we can control climate change at some point in the future Like having a clima-council which votes to lower or rise the temperature. Would definetly cause conflicts between very hot and cold nations

Imagine the entire planet fighting for the thermostat

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post #4

Rises the question which temperature is the "right" one. Assuming we can control climate change at some point in the future Like having a clima-council which votes to lower or rise the temperature. Would definetly cause conflicts between very hot and cold nations

Imagine the entire planet fighting for the thermostat

This is not impossible.

There are a bunch bunch of ideas for how to build a "thermostat." Some of them might be affordable for even a mid sized economy. We could find ourselves in a world where 26 different countries have competing climate control agendas and toolkits. Presumably Vanuatu has a different take that Latvia.

Perhaps this will be the 22nd century's alternative to resource wars.

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Rises the question which temperature is the "right" one. Assuming we can control climate change at some point in the future Like having a clima-council which votes to lower or rise the temperature. Would definetly cause conflicts between very hot and cold nations

There's a very large band for the "right" temperature. The problem is the rate of change. Given enough time, the ecosystem will adapt.

Re: Ancient farmers spared us from glaciers but changed Earth's climate: study

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Imagine the entire planet fighting for the thermostat

This is not impossible. There are a bunch bunch of ideas for how to build a "thermostat." Some of them might be affordable for even a mid sized economy. We could find ourselves in a world where 26 different countries have competing climate control agendas and toolkits. Presumably Vanuatu has a different take that Latvia. Perhaps this will be the 22nd century's alternative to resource wars.

“Give me a half tanker of iron, and I will give you an ice age.” - John Martin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Martin_(oceanographer)

Re: Ancient farmers spared us from glaciers but changed Earth's climate: study

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not impossible. There are a bunch bunch of ideas for how to build a "thermostat." Some of them might be affordable for even a mid sized economy. We could find ourselves in a world where 26 different countries have competing climate control agendas and toolkits. Presumably Vanuatu has a different take that Latvia. Perhaps this will be the 22nd century's alternative to resource wars.

“Give me a half tanker of iron, and I will give you an ice age.” - John Martin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Martin_(oceanographer)

What’s the downside to that strategy? It seems like a no-brainer at first glance

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Rises the question which temperature is the "right" one. Assuming we can control climate change at some point in the future Like having a clima-council which votes to lower or rise the temperature. Would definetly cause conflicts between very hot and cold nations

There is none

Re: Ancient farmers spared us from glaciers but changed Earth's climate: study

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Give me a half tanker of iron, and I will give you an ice age.” - John Martin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Martin_(oceanographer)

What’s the downside to that strategy? It seems like a no-brainer at first glance

too many whales!
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