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What drives IPv6 deployment?

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Re: What drives IPv6 deployment?

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I have the joy of living in a community with FTTH and a 1Gbps symmetrical connection for I have the pain of that connection requiring an additional $10 / month just so I can get 1 (or 4, same price) static IPv4 address which is apparently “required” for me to get IPv6. After using a HE.net tunnel for a few weeks, the slowdowns induced led me back to IPv4-only world.

So even in an advanced situation, you might still be stuck with IPv4 because of very silly reasons.

Re: What drives IPv6 deployment?

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In the US, Verizon is one of the worst offenders. They should be ashamed, touting FIOS as a premium service while it's been close to a decade since they put up their pathetic "IPv6 is coming soon..." announcement[1]. Their largest competitors, Spectrum (formerly Time Warner Cable) and Comcast have supported IPv6 for years already.

[1] - https://www.verizon.com/support/residential/internet/getting...

Re: What drives IPv6 deployment?

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I have the joy of living in a community with FTTH and a 1Gbps symmetrical connection for I have the pain of that connection requiring an additional $10 / month just so I can get 1 (or 4, same price) static IPv4 address which is apparently “required” for me to get IPv6. After using a HE.net tunnel for a few weeks, the slowdowns induced led me back to IPv4-only world. So even in an advanced situation, you might still b…

The problem here is not that HE.net tunnels require a static IPv4 address, it's that your ISP won't connect you to the whole Internet.

Tunnels are garbage. You should either switch ISPs, or complain and wait.

Re: What drives IPv6 deployment?

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I have the joy of living in a community with FTTH and a 1Gbps symmetrical connection for I have the pain of that connection requiring an additional $10 / month just so I can get 1 (or 4, same price) static IPv4 address which is apparently “required” for me to get IPv6. After using a HE.net tunnel for a few weeks, the slowdowns induced led me back to IPv4-only world. So even in an advanced situation, you might still b…

The problem here is not that HE.net tunnels require a static IPv4 address, it's that your ISP won't connect you to the whole Internet. Tunnels are garbage. You should either switch ISPs, or complain and wait.

> The problem here is not that HE.net tunnels require a static IPv4 address, it's that your ISP won't connect you to the whole Internet.

This, definitely.

To be clear, I used an HE.net tunnel after I was told of their policy. The tunnel works great with dynamic IPs if you also link up their endpoint to update your tunnel every time your IP changes.

Re: What drives IPv6 deployment?

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> Three surprising numbers in this table are those of 94% adoption in T-Mobile USA, 93% in BSkyB and 92% in Reliance Jio. They are surprising in that prior to these deployments we had though that an ISP deployment of IPv6 was only a part of the story. It was up to the connected user network to also use IPv6-capable equipment within their edge network... Upgrading equipment in the home or office takes time.. . Why can these three networks achieve significantly higher levels of IPv6 adoption? I suspect that this is a reflection of the difference between Mobile ISPs and fixed infrastructure of mixed ISPs... It would not be surprising to learn that a similar approach was taken in Reliance Jio and BSkyB.

BSkyB is a fixed line broadband provider, but in the UK it's usual for the ISP to supply the router, and for customers to change providers for a better deal fairly often.

Both parts mean the customer has a fairly recent router, which can be replaced if required by the ISP, and they know the model and can often perform firmware updates.

Re: What drives IPv6 deployment?

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I have the joy of living in a community with FTTH and a 1Gbps symmetrical connection for I have the pain of that connection requiring an additional $10 / month just so I can get 1 (or 4, same price) static IPv4 address which is apparently “required” for me to get IPv6. After using a HE.net tunnel for a few weeks, the slowdowns induced led me back to IPv4-only world. So even in an advanced situation, you might still b…

It’s stupid that they require a static IP. However, the cost might be somewhat justified since IP addresses are block allocated. However, $10 per month seems very high, especially if it is for a static IPv6 address for which there is no shortage nor will there be in many lifetimes.

Re: What drives IPv6 deployment?

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The outliers that surprised me the most are the big Chinese providers (ChinaNet and China Unicom) in the provider table. Despite them having much less IPv4 addresses than users, they appear to make no significant effort to get IPv6 deployed.

What are they doing instead? Putting all users behind carrier-grade NAT that don't need dedicated IPv4 addresses? That must be hundreds or even thousands of users behind a single address, considering that they must have a range of users (businesses and such) that need dedicated, static addresses for practical purposes, thereby reducing the IP address and user pools at a minimum 1:1 relationship.

Or is it maybe the Chinese surveillance infrastructure that is not yet capable of snooping and manipulating IPv6 traffic, so the providers aren't allowed to roll it out?

Re: What drives IPv6 deployment?

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I'm going to go ahead and say that I'm happy with CG-NAT because of the security and privacy benefits.

This thing of having a per-device IP address looks like the wet dream of marketers and those newspapers that won't let you look at more than X articles a month. No thanks.

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