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Safari already hides "www.". In fact it hides everything except the root-level domain, e.g. " https://www.google.com/about/" shows just "[lock] google.com". Firefox and Opera show the full domain but gray out everything in the entire URL except the root-level domain, so "www." is gray. Just saying, de-emphasizing and hiding parts of the URL is clearly a trend. This isn't just a Google thing.
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> The UX of moving what I'm looking at instantly under click is very unpleasant too, Could you expand on this? What are you referring to?
I don't know if it's the same thing, but I'll bite: it's absolutely maddening to edit or select part of a URL. Click in the address bar and the entire address is selected, then you click on any part of it to either select a part or to place your cursor in order to add to it, after which Chrome appears to first shift the entire URL to the right in order to show the protocol, then it places the cursor within the shifte…
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My bet is this decision is driven somewhere by marketing morons who want 'www.google' (presumably a domain that will at some point exist, the TLD already does) to render as simply 'google'
Technically there's no reason why a TLD can't have an A record. If they own "google." they can point it to whatever address and serve whatever they want.
"www." is useless. Eliminating it wouldn't be a bad thing.
"m." for mobile sites is extremely archaic. Sites should work on mobile without special subdomains.
If you issue subdomains to strangers on your root domain, the URL bar showing the subdomain shouldn't be your "security model."
The root domain is the root authority behind the site in question. Chrome showing users that information in a clear and concise way isn't "subverting the domain name system".
Safari has been doing this for a long time, and Chrome/Chromium have settings/flags that allow you to turn this behavior off. The amount of crying over this change is ridiculous in my opinion. As long as they keep this configurable (in fact, they should add a UI config for it) I see no problem here.
Safari already hides "www.". In fact it hides everything except the root-level domain, e.g. " https://www.google.com/about/" shows just "[lock] google.com". Firefox and Opera show the full domain but gray out everything in the entire URL except the root-level domain, so "www." is gray. Just saying, de-emphasizing and hiding parts of the URL is clearly a trend. This isn't just a Google thing.
this is actually the main reason I cannot use Safari. It always boggled my mind that they made this decision. For power users, they never look at the url unless they want information from it, in which case the `www` is valuable. For low tech users, it can lead to straight up incomprehensible issues, like sites not rendering properly (think of a `m.*`). The UI gains are so small, that part of the screen is never reall…
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What you may be surprised to learn is that Chrome isn't just stripping "www." from the beginning of the subdomain. "subdomain.www.domain.com" displays as "subdomain.domain.com"
Isn't this a security risk? What if someone malicious takes control of the www.com domain?
Sounds like Chrome could now be a phisher's best friend…
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Facebook aside, don't the majority of sites show you mobile version by looking at headers. Isn't that the whole reason the "Show desktop version" feature even exists in Chrome, to send the desktop header? Very few sites actually use www. vs m. Clearly, in those cases, people aren't "confused" by the fact that they are seeing a mobile version on www., so other than the fact that you're used to Facebook specifically wo…
> Isn't that the whole reason the "Show desktop version" feature even exists in Chrome, to send the desktop header? This is indeed what it does; I wish it did more! Specifically, when visiting responsive pages on a phone where the mobile-viewport-size layout is just 100% broken, I’d love if “Request Desktop Site” actually set the viewport to be that of a desktop browser, and then set a low CSS/viewport zoom level to…
Have you tried it in the last couple months? It seems like a fairly recent change in behaviour.
Considering a subdomain "trivial" is ridiculous... there's a difference between "www.example.com" and "example.com". Not only can they serve different sites, they can even have different DNS records! It seems that "m." is also considered a trivial subdomain. So when a user clicks a link to a "m.facebook.com" uri, they'll be confused why FB looks different when the browser reports it's on "facebook.com". I sincerely h…
This is certainly subverting the domain name system. I can't see the value or gain in security by this. (If you want to put focus on the domain, then display the host-part with less contrast, i.e. grey, but don't hide any potentially vital information. Otherwise, put out a RFC, defining "www" as a substitute for "*", or a zero-value atom, in order to guarantee consistent behavior.) Edit: There are also legal concerns…
Google is trying to get users to go through their doorway pages, which is exactly the kind of thing for which they penalize publishers.
Pay attention to when you enter direct addresses, let's say from a device/media subscription authorization page. The autosuggestion feature will often recommend Google searches, disguised as URLs, instead of helping you complete the very obvious URL.
If they help you get to the site directly, the opportunity to acquire your page views diminishes.
These behaviors are hostile toward users. I'd like to see further in their playbook to depreciate the URL as we know it.
Safari already hides "www.". In fact it hides everything except the root-level domain, e.g. " https://www.google.com/about/" shows just "[lock] google.com". Firefox and Opera show the full domain but gray out everything in the entire URL except the root-level domain, so "www." is gray. Just saying, de-emphasizing and hiding parts of the URL is clearly a trend. This isn't just a Google thing.
Preferences > Advanced > Show full website address
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