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Chrome 69: “www.” subdomain missing from URL

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Re: Chrome 69: “www.” subdomain missing from URL

#31
post #10

Is this really a big deal? Don't many websites either redirect the www to the non-www, or the other way around?

It's about the principle. www is a valid subdomain. Browsers are supposed to be as unopinionated as possible since they are browsers , not mediators, and their job is to implement the standards of the web.

Your opinion that browsers should be unopinionated is not an opinion shared by browsers.

Re: Chrome 69: “www.” subdomain missing from URL

#34
post #24

This isn't entirely without precedent. Firefox does something similar by greying out the `www` in the UI, Chrome just decided to take things a step further by hiding it entirely.

Huge difference IMO. I'd explain your example as firefox highlighting the domain part of the URI.

Re: Chrome 69: “www.” subdomain missing from URL

#35
post #24

This isn't entirely without precedent. Firefox does something similar by greying out the `www` in the UI, Chrome just decided to take things a step further by hiding it entirely.

FF grays out everything that's not the domain name, not just `www` and more importantly, not because it's `www`.

Re: Chrome 69: “www.” subdomain missing from URL

#36

If the browser uses some technique to detect that www.domain.com is functionally identical to domain.com for a given domain, then I don't see a serious problem with this. But if they are short of that certainty, they're obscuring a critical part of the URL, and harming usability (e.g., if I want to jot down a site's URL for later use, I might get something unexpected).

That's not the case. I run a server that does not respond to "www." If I enter "www.myserver.com" into the address bar, I get a DNS lookup failure, but the address bar is now showing "myserver.com." That's damn confusing, and this is an idiotic default on Chrome's part.

Re: Chrome 69: “www.” subdomain missing from URL

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post #4
post #3

The fix is to change your subdomain from "www" to "amp". You can read more about it at the IETF website located here: https://www.ampproject.org/ Please submit any complaints you have as a video on YouTube.

Please tell me this is a joke...

I had a strong gut feeling Google has one or multiple ulterior motives for doing this - motives that aren't very user-friendly (as they claim) but more Google-friendly. I thought it may be so that it can track every link you type in Chrome without 99.9% of the users being aware of it. Right now Google does that only for "searches" in the omnibox.

I hadn't thought about the amp angle, but that could be another reason for pushing this, too. Perhaps there are more we won't know until it's too late to do anything about it (other than changing browsers, of course).

Re: Chrome 69: “www.” subdomain missing from URL

#39
post #30

This is idiotic and harmful. We already lost information about the protocol, because somebody believed it is "too complex" for users. Now we're losing other parts of the URL. It's making a joke of the SSL/TLS padlock, too — what exactly is the padlock supposed to tell me? It used to signify that a "known authority" certified that I'm connected to whatever I see in the URL bar. But now that browsers take liberties wit…

Google wants to destroy the URL so the only way to find something will be via Google... They also want to tie your identity to each webpage that you author via a certificate so that all governments can clamp down on fake information or have the opportunity to in the future.

Re: Chrome 69: “www.” subdomain missing from URL

#40
post #18
post #5

...I'm okay with this, I think. Has www (http over tcp/ip) not become the default protocol for "the internet" in the average person's mind?

I think websites should just stop using "www." entirely and host directly on their domain rather than a subdomain.

That weakens the protection the same origin policy offers.
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