"the Mamluks were not native to Egypt but were always slave soldiers, mainly Qipchak Turks from Central Asia." - if two Turks come together, they would establish an empire.
Who Were the Mamluks?
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Re: Who Were the Mamluks?
#12They were those bastards who nearly dominated the Ottoman Empire and all of the western Mediterranean region in my recent EU4 game. They listed me as a rival for nearly 200 years without ever waging war, which, in hindsight, was a blessing.
Who were you playing as?
Re: Who Were the Mamluks?
#13According to my EU4 history lessons, Ottoman food.
Re: Who Were the Mamluks?
#14Francisco Goya painted some of them in The Charge of the Mamelukes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Second_of_May_1808
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mamelukes_of_the_Imperial_Guar...
Re: Who Were the Mamluks?
#15"the Mamluks were not native to Egypt but were always slave soldiers, mainly Qipchak Turks from Central Asia." - if two Turks come together, they would establish an empire.
I seem to recall that because the Mamluks were mostly Turkic their country was called "The home of the Turks" or essentially "Turkey" for a while.
Re: Who Were the Mamluks?
#16If you're interested in this kind of history stuff, I recommend reading The Silk Roads, by Peter Frankopan. It's a recent (2015) epic-scope history book, from the beginning of written history to the present day, based on the idea that the Middle East, rather than Europe, is the true center of civilization - that the area stretching from the eastern Mediterranean to western India has been foremost, and remains foremost. (In particular, he argues that northern/western Europe was basically an uninteresting, barbarian backwater until 1500 or so.)
Great book, totally fascinating reading, with the hottest geopolitical issues of today traced back through thousands of years of history.
Re: Who Were the Mamluks?
#17The Mamluks are a major power stuck between the Ottomans and Persia with a weird government form that almost guarantees rulers with a 6 in paper mana. They somehow often colonize Australia.
This is the answer I was looking for. Sometime they also form Egypt too.
Re: Who Were the Mamluks?
#18If you're interested in this kind of history stuff, I recommend reading The Silk Roads , by Peter Frankopan. It's a recent (2015) epic-scope history book, from the beginning of written history to the present day, based on the idea that the Middle East, rather than Europe, is the true center of civilization - that the area stretching from the eastern Mediterranean to western India has been foremost, and remains foremo…
One interesting thing that comes from the book is realizing just how tremendously important the early Islamic expansion and empire was, filling the vacuum caused by the collapse of the Roman empire with a new culture, devoted to advancing technology, peace, trade, and preservation of the writings of earlier civilizations. Without them, we might have lost most of the writing of ancient Greece.
Re: Who Were the Mamluks?
#19If you're interested in this kind of history stuff, I recommend reading The Silk Roads , by Peter Frankopan. It's a recent (2015) epic-scope history book, from the beginning of written history to the present day, based on the idea that the Middle East, rather than Europe, is the true center of civilization - that the area stretching from the eastern Mediterranean to western India has been foremost, and remains foremo…
Thanks for the recommendation!
Re: Who Were the Mamluks?
#20If you're interested in this kind of history stuff, I recommend reading The Silk Roads , by Peter Frankopan. It's a recent (2015) epic-scope history book, from the beginning of written history to the present day, based on the idea that the Middle East, rather than Europe, is the true center of civilization - that the area stretching from the eastern Mediterranean to western India has been foremost, and remains foremo…
One interesting thing that comes from the book is realizing just how tremendously important the early Islamic expansion and empire was, filling the vacuum caused by the collapse of the Roman empire with a new culture, devoted to advancing technology, peace, trade, and preservation of the writings of earlier civilizations. Without them, we might have lost most of the writing of ancient Greece.
> filling the vacuum caused by the collapse of the Roman empire
What about the "other" Roman empire, the Byzantines? They seemed to have filled the vacuum even better.