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Re: Firefox 62.0 Released

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Post by pasbesoin »

bovine3dom wrote: post #56

Coinciding with this release, Firefox 52 ESR is no longer supported, so no supported versions of Firefox support the legacy extensions. I'm mentioning this here just so I can tell Vimperator / Pentadactyl / VimFx users that there are loads of options you can replace your old extensions with, some of which are... okay. Links follow in increasing order of user-friendliness: https://github.com/tridactyl/tridactyl [^] ht…

I've been on vacation, but right before I left, I read news to the effect that Mozilla would be removing legacy extensions from their extension listings "by early October" (seemingly, at the latest).

Is anyone backing up these things, both for continued use, e.g. by Pale Moon users or whomever else, and for history / the public record / study / etc.?

Re: Firefox 62.0 Released

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Post by PurpleRamen »

polkadotted wrote: post #109
bovine3dom wrote: post #56

Coinciding with this release, Firefox 52 ESR is no longer supported, so no supported versions of Firefox support the legacy extensions. I'm mentioning this here just so I can tell Vimperator / Pentadactyl / VimFx users that there are loads of options you can replace your old extensions with, some of which are... okay. Links follow in increasing order of user-friendliness: https://github.com/tridactyl/tridactyl [^] ht…

Thank you for your work. I'm currently a tridactyl user. However I'd like to point out that none of these replacements can currently compete with the previous extensions in term of usability. Simply put, you cannot count on the keyboard shortcuts to work consistently throughout Firefox. They do not work in built-in pages (such as errors). They do not work when inside an input field in GTK. There's no way to consisten…

Worse is the unreliable working of vi-keys. Often enough focus ends somewhere on the page, and the vi-extension just stops working. I've yet to find a reliable way to gain input-focus again in those cases.

Re: Firefox 62.0 Released

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Post by scns »

JimminyCrocket wrote: post #57

Youtube on Firefox for me is awful. I get constant buffering on 1080p+ content. Chrome is flawless. I have the same extensions on both browsers, curious if anyone else has experienced the same recently?

Try out the 264ify extension. Forces h264 instead of vp9, can block 60fps videos too.

Re: Firefox 62.0 Released

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Post by icebraining »

tomc1985 wrote: post #238
sjellis wrote: post #237

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mozilla Foundation is actually a non-profit organization, not a profit-making business. Due to US laws, the work is done by "Mozilla Corporation", which is totally owned by the Foundation, but this is a non-profit that promotes the open Web. Increasingly, that means having a Web browser that is secure and fast, even at the expense of taking out features that some users really wanted. I've been using Firefox since the…

Some is never enough in software any more to keep anything. Development always has to cater to the majority case and lowest-common-demoninator. Users don't want sophisticated tools and platforms, they just want stupid appliances! Optional features? Forget it. Things that might take some study to learn? Axed. Who would ever want that?! It really makes me sick. Tyranny of the majority writ large. (And while I write thi…

You don't have to wonder, their budgets are public.

Re: Firefox 62.0 Released

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Post by robotron »

erikpukinskis wrote: post #62
phakding wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What would be an example of a "big single page app"?

Can’t speak for OP, but Slack is the first that comes to mind.

I have Slack open all day in Firefox and it's fine. Much better than the desktop app for me.

Re: Firefox 62.0 Released

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Post by fauigerzigerk »

jplayer01 wrote: post #223
SllX wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been using Firefox since 1.5, I've accepted memory leaks as a fact of life. For comparison, I currently have two browser windows open and zero tabs. One is this comment box, the other is a GitHub page. Firefox is using a grand total of 3GB RAM, about 700MB of which is for the WebExtensions process so figure about 2.3GB for a grand total of two pages. This is actually an improvement on the way things used to be,…

Funny, I have around 200 tabs open and FF is using around 2.5GB. Thats with close to a dozen add-ons. Chrome would’ve choked and died long before reaching 100 tabs. Memory-wise, I'm quite happy with FF now. Now they just need to make their session API less garbage.

What OS are you on?

Re: Firefox 62.0 Released

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Post by bovine3dom »

PurpleRamen wrote: post #242
polkadotted wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you for your work. I'm currently a tridactyl user. However I'd like to point out that none of these replacements can currently compete with the previous extensions in term of usability. Simply put, you cannot count on the keyboard shortcuts to work consistently throughout Firefox. They do not work in built-in pages (such as errors). They do not work when inside an input field in GTK. There's no way to consisten…

Worse is the unreliable working of vi-keys. Often enough focus ends somewhere on the page, and the vi-extension just stops working. I've yet to find a reliable way to gain input-focus again in those cases.

Sometimes this is our fault - there's a bug with our command line where it doesn't close properly and can steal focus (particularly `tabopen about:addons`). I am sorry about that. We're working on tearing it out and starting again as the command line has lots of problems.

Otherwise, it's usually YouTube. I just only interact with the videos using the mouse (or MPV via `;v`) and make sure to click outside them afterwards.

I do have a trackpoint on all of my keyboards, so I don't really notice having to click the mouse because it's just another keyboard button, so I might not be the most representative person here.

Re: Firefox 62.0 Released

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Post by bovine3dom »

pard68 wrote: post #215
bovine3dom wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I actually keep it installed because it's the easiest way of using Pentadactyl; I use it to compare behaviour with Tridactyl (e.g, looking for prior art for what a bind should be). As such I literally run it side by side with new Firefox. Honestly, it's just kind of slow. Mozilla have done a fantastic job in the last few years.

Have you tried Waterfox? I find it to be as good as FF 52

I did but a) 57+ is much quicker than 52; b) I couldn't actually get Vimperator to work, so I gave up and used Pale Moon for all my idea stealing needs.

Re: Firefox 62.0 Released

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Post by bovine3dom »

pasbesoin wrote: post #241
bovine3dom wrote: post #56

Coinciding with this release, Firefox 52 ESR is no longer supported, so no supported versions of Firefox support the legacy extensions. I'm mentioning this here just so I can tell Vimperator / Pentadactyl / VimFx users that there are loads of options you can replace your old extensions with, some of which are... okay. Links follow in increasing order of user-friendliness: https://github.com/tridactyl/tridactyl [^] ht…

I've been on vacation, but right before I left, I read news to the effect that Mozilla would be removing legacy extensions from their extension listings "by early October" (seemingly, at the latest). Is anyone backing up these things, both for continued use, e.g. by Pale Moon users or whomever else, and for history / the public record / study / etc.?

I am not aware of any such endeavour.

Pale Moon already has its own extension page [1], so if you care particularly strongly you might want to talk to them about it.

[1] https://addons.palemoon.org/extensions/

Re: Firefox 62.0 Released

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Post by mannimow »

zbraniecki wrote: post #43
bratao wrote: post #13

I'm a die-hard Firefox fan. While all my colleagues develop in Chrome, I'm the weird one who uses Firefox and always catches some problem in rendering when testing. But recently I installed an 4K monitor. I use the Latest Windows 10 and have an GTX 1050 graphic card. The Firefox on this resolution is VERY slow. I have no problem in Edge or Chrome. Please, if any dev is around, check this use case.

Hi, dev here. :) Can you capture a profile using steps from [0] and send them to us/me? [0] https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/7knnn4/firefox_qua...

Thanks for chiming in!

I have a question. Where are you guys at with this issue?

The thing is, literally every retina resolution Macbook I've tried this on (3 different machines) resulted in massive CPU hog with 4 tabs open on a few basic websites. Let's say they are reddit, hn, and youtube.

The Awesome bar is slow, switching tabs is slow, computer warms up in 15 seconds. Fans kick in, the rest is history. New profile, existing profile, it doesn't matter.

That goes for every single release after 57, including Developers, Beta, and Nightly builds.

15 inch ones are worse than 13.

This doesn't happen when I use external screen.

My feeling is in order to reproduce the issue one has to - Find a Macbook Pro released after 2012. - Open Firefox with aforementioned websites - Try to interact with the websites

Are there any active issues for it?

I remember this one: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1404042

All dependent bugs are fixed, but alas, it made no difference.

Is there's anything I could do to help resolve this?

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