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Firefox 62.0 Released

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Post by fbender »

SllX wrote: post #162
wongarsu wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I currently have 76 tabs open and last closed Firefox approximately 2 days ago. Firefox sits at about 5GB RAM usage and 3% CPU, which I find very acceptable. In my experience Firefox handles a large amount of tabs very well, while Chrome tends to eat a lot more RAM in the same situation (while doing its best to hide that fact). On the other hand there are some websites that will easily demand a gigabyte of RAM on the…

I've been using Firefox since 1.5, I've accepted memory leaks as a fact of life. For comparison, I currently have two browser windows open and zero tabs. One is this comment box, the other is a GitHub page. Firefox is using a grand total of 3GB RAM, about 700MB of which is for the WebExtensions process so figure about 2.3GB for a grand total of two pages. This is actually an improvement on the way things used to be,…

Two things at play here: First, browser engines intentionally hold onto memory to re-use (they are allocating large-ish chunks at a time) until there is a Memory pressure Event. It‘s not leaked memory.

Second, it sounds like you have quite a few addons running that each hold quite a bit of data in memory (like ad blockers). Try safe mode and see if behavior changes (though ads may now swallow quite a bit of memory now).

Re: Firefox 62.0 Released

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Post by rainonmoon »

simias wrote: post #107
phakding wrote: post #23

With all these posters complaining, am I the only one who is totally satisfied with Firefox? I never had many issues using firefox. I did use Chrome briefly, but came back to firefox. If it matters, I mostly use firefox on Debian Linux and am also not a web developer.

I also remained loyal to Firefox but I think there's a mentality aspect to it: when a website loads slowly I'm quicker to blame the website than the browser. As such when I'm frustrated by my web experience I tend to think "man, I need to stop using this garbage website" rather than "well, time to use a faster browser". Because surely my octocore gaming PC with 16GB of RAM should manage to display text and images jus…

The difference in my experience is that hangups while I'm using Firefox usually happen within the viewport while moving tabs and accessing menus remains snappy, so it's easier to attribute that slog to the website. When I was using Chrome before, it would frequently lock up entirely.

Re: Firefox 62.0 Released

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Post by what_ever »

Endy wrote: post #205
coffeefirst wrote: post #30

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I keep trying to switch. The thing that stops me is it chokes on big single page apps. Arguably the problem is the sites being choked on (too much javascript) but there's not much I can do about that.

Stop trying to do things in your browser that should be their own independent programs.

Well they are a user and not the programmer so they may not have that option.

Re: Firefox 62.0 Released

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Post by fbender »

toyg wrote: post #59
fbender wrote: post #8

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Do you use a Retina display by chance? In certain setups, Fx is known to use more energy in HiDPI mode. Try disabling it and see if it fixes your issue. To what I know, this issue is known to Moz and will be fixed in a few versions (it appears to be a complex issue that takes time to solve).

> In certain setups, Fx is known to use more energy in HiDPI mode. Try disabling it "Hey, your laptop is too good, please cripple it!" is not a good answer, especially considering retina displays have been out for 6 years now (and I bet loads of Moz employees use them too). I use Firefox almost exclusively, and still I wonder, sometimes, what the %$#%@ the "leadership" is thinking. They keep messing with crap like Po…

I was merely pointing out troubleshooting steps, not suggesting you take that as a solution to the issue. As I said, it‘s been worked on and latest nightly seems to improve that situation a bit.

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Post by pard68 »

bovine3dom wrote: post #110
gkya wrote: post #76

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Have you considered Pale Moon? Do you thing it's usable/dependable?

I actually keep it installed because it's the easiest way of using Pentadactyl; I use it to compare behaviour with Tridactyl (e.g, looking for prior art for what a bind should be). As such I literally run it side by side with new Firefox. Honestly, it's just kind of slow. Mozilla have done a fantastic job in the last few years.

Have you tried Waterfox? I find it to be as good as FF 52

Re: Firefox 62.0 Released

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Post by kbrosnan »

claar wrote: post #49
bratao wrote: post #13

I'm a die-hard Firefox fan. While all my colleagues develop in Chrome, I'm the weird one who uses Firefox and always catches some problem in rendering when testing. But recently I installed an 4K monitor. I use the Latest Windows 10 and have an GTX 1050 graphic card. The Firefox on this resolution is VERY slow. I have no problem in Edge or Chrome. Please, if any dev is around, check this use case.

There's some mention of improvement for this in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1265824#c221 -- scheduled to be released in Firefox 63. You might try the nightly and see if it's already fixed.

1. Nightly has some profile incompatible database changes 2. That bug is OS X only. The parent is on Windows 10.

Re: Firefox 62.0 Released

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Post by remir »

phakding wrote: post #23

With all these posters complaining, am I the only one who is totally satisfied with Firefox? I never had many issues using firefox. I did use Chrome briefly, but came back to firefox. If it matters, I mostly use firefox on Debian Linux and am also not a web developer.

Absolutely satisfied with Firefox. I wanted to use FF for years, mainly for ideological reasons, but didn't because next to Chrome, the performance wasn't there.

But the changes Mozilla did in recent years convinced me to come back and it has been great!

Re: Firefox 62.0 Released

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Post by snaky »

olejorgenb wrote: post #195
jaas wrote: post #77

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The Firefox bookmarking implementation is unnecessarily complicated and I'm guessing very few features are actually used. It's a maintenance burden, I'm not surprised they want to slim it down. To give you an example of a maintenance burden in the bookmarking system, the bookmarking system uses a bunch of synchronous APIs. Mozilla is trying to cut down or eliminate use of those APIs, to reduce UI hangs among other re…

> Their usefulness is very limited, since we don't even search on them How about instead making them more useful and searching the field? > they are fetched from the page at the bookmarking time That I wouldn't mind removing, but not having a proper place to add some notes about the bookmark seems silly.

Searching among descriptions would be "unnecessarily complicated and I'm guessing very barely are actually used" I suppose.

Oh if only there were some engine inside, like SQLite or something.

Re: Firefox 62.0 Released

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Post by snaky »

konart wrote: post #150
guilhas wrote: post #141

Firefox 55 working great, most extensions supported and containers working

Note that they will be removing legacy extensions from their store soon: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/software/mozilla-to-re...

Instead of just marking the extensions incompatible with particular versions.
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