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The #1 Office Perk? Natural Light

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Re: The #1 Office Perk? Natural Light

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We've got nice big windows and lots of natural light (most of the time) but we had to lobby our facilities manager to put in a switch so we could turn off the overhead fluorescent lighting.

In places where I don't have access to the light switch I just unscrew the bulbs nearest my desk.

hah we did that in our old office. IN this space, the fixtures make it more difficult to do that.

Re: The #1 Office Perk? Natural Light

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Oh yes please. I work as a games programmer at a massive studio and it looks like 90% of people here prefer complete darkness during the day, to the point where they have these umbrella-like covers above their desks to cover any light from the lamps that somehow miraculously are still on. Me and few other people occupy a little corner next to a window that we stubbornly refuse to close the blinds on, despite bi-weekl…

Designers are probably dealing with white balance issues. Daylight changes colour throughout the day. It's enough to throw off their work. As a compromise you might try daylight balanced photography bulbs. Consistent color but it feels like daylight.

They might be working on games that are very dark (mostly black screens) so that is the only way to see any contrast. P.S. I hate those games, my room is not going to be midnight dark to play a game.

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I you doubt the benefits of natural light, here is a story from a good friend of mine. Few years back when he was in college, he took an appointment with a doctor because started to feel depressed with no obvious reason (no family drama, health issues whatsoever...). Very quickly the doc asked him where he was spending most of his time, answer: in a classroom with tiny windows, curtain closed and artificial lights.

Bright full-spectrum lamps help. There are some sold as therapeutic devices.

Can you attest to that personally? I looked into them for treating SAD and none of the Amazon top-reviewed ones seemed consistent, and I couldn't find much well-regarded literature either.

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You're probably well aware of this, but Vitamin D supplements have been life changing for me. There was an article a while back pleading to the FDA to fix the recommended daily limit, suggesting it might be 10x too low. I take 10,000 IU a day and the difference is very noticeable.

I get pretty significant SAD and 5000 IUs of Vitamin D helps a lot, but it's not enough for me. I'm planning to move to somewhere else in a year or two, maybe Seattle.

Vancouver Island isn't far from Seattle, and I had no sun at all all winter, be sure to check it out in the winter before you move there.

Re: The #1 Office Perk? Natural Light

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I think it's interesting that the comments here seem almost universally in favour of bright natural lighting, when clearly there are plenty of people (at least in gamedev) who feel otherwise. I tend to prefer a dimly lit room and am perfectly happy with the only light being from my monitors. Then again as an ex-gamedev troglodyte I'm also happiest working from 3pm-1am...

One fairly universal current I've observed though is a dislike for strong artificial lighting, particularly overhead lighting. I can work very productively in an abundance of natural light or in a basically dark room lit only by the glow of monitors and RGB accessories, but put me in a room without windows and with supermarket-style lighting and I'll be miserable. In my home office, I'm fortunate to have both a large…

Part of that might be the harsh nature of fluorescent lighting used in a lot of offices. Natural light is broad spectrum, but typical fluorescent lighting is a few sharp peaks. Combined with the 120 Hz flicker common in many I find them pretty unpleasant, especially for long periods of time.

I find I don't mind higher CRI and higher frequency lighting nearly as much. You can get that in fluorescent lights and they're not as bad as they used to be, but the really good ones are expensive.

Re: The #1 Office Perk? Natural Light

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Every place I worked, I optimized for a window seat. I would volunteer to sit next to the loudest and stinkiest people if that's what it took, because those things didn't bother me (noise cancelling headphones and my nose doesn't really work anyway). I would sit far away from all the other amenities, or close to them, whichever was worse, just to get a window. Somehow I got really lucky, and in 16 years of working in…

My office recently knocked down a dorm room so that the team sitting in the corner could get some sunlight. Made the area so much more pleasant to work in.

Re: The #1 Office Perk? Natural Light

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I get pretty significant SAD and 5000 IUs of Vitamin D helps a lot, but it's not enough for me. I'm planning to move to somewhere else in a year or two, maybe Seattle.

Vancouver Island isn't far from Seattle, and I had no sun at all all winter, be sure to check it out in the winter before you move there.

Thanks, I hear Vancouver is beautiful. I'm planning on taking a west coast trip next summer so hopefully I'll be able to check Seattle out, along with Portland and SF, though I don't want to have to choose SF.

Re: The #1 Office Perk? Natural Light

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You're probably well aware of this, but Vitamin D supplements have been life changing for me. There was an article a while back pleading to the FDA to fix the recommended daily limit, suggesting it might be 10x too low. I take 10,000 IU a day and the difference is very noticeable.

I get pretty significant SAD and 5000 IUs of Vitamin D helps a lot, but it's not enough for me. I'm planning to move to somewhere else in a year or two, maybe Seattle.

I'd think Seattle would not be my first choice for a city with a lot of Sunshine. Something in California would be better, especially SoCal. (I think the Silicon Valley area gets plenty of sun too, the Bay Area can be quite cloudy)

Re: The #1 Office Perk? Natural Light

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post #258

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're probably well aware of this, but Vitamin D supplements have been life changing for me. There was an article a while back pleading to the FDA to fix the recommended daily limit, suggesting it might be 10x too low. I take 10,000 IU a day and the difference is very noticeable.

I get pretty significant SAD and 5000 IUs of Vitamin D helps a lot, but it's not enough for me. I'm planning to move to somewhere else in a year or two, maybe Seattle.

I'm a Seattle native and love it here. Unfortunately it is not a good place to get sunlight. We are very far north (for an American city) and overcast for most of the year. Seattle averages about 5.5 hours of sun per day. San Francisco averages nearly 8.5.
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