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Outage is part of life, but Google's is most resilient in my experience.
Google doesn't have near the cloud presence of Amazon and Microsoft...maybe one day when they do, we can properly compare them. Given Google's small size/role in the space it's impossible to gauge if this is true.
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Re: Microsoft Azure suffers outage after cooling issue
#62So AWS has had some big outages, as has Azure. Has GCP had any big outages yet?
AWS and Azure have had "big" outages people because actually use them. Rackspace and IBM are almost neck and neck with Google's best efforts (3% markshare Vs. 30%/40% for Azure/AWS)[0]. [0] https://www.skyhighnetworks.com/cloud-security-blog/microsof...
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Not intended to be snarky: why is this crazy to you? All cloud providers have had downtime incidents, major hosted VCS providers, SaaS products. Downtime is a fact of life in tech.
Hrm. I've worked at a large tech firm for more than a decade and there has never been a full day where VCS or the build farm were down all day. It's notable when it's down for more than twenty minutes.
Unless it’s life critical (911, air traffic control), if it’s down its only going to hamper productivity, but it’ll be back eventually. Time to stretch and get a coffee, and if it’s all day, going home and we’ll start fresh tomorrow.
We’re not saving lives, we’re just building websites. Downtime isn’t shameful, it happens to all of us.
Re: Microsoft Azure suffers outage after cooling issue
#64Kind of surprised of the lack of redundancy, especially for their first party products. Shouldn't they be deploying to more than one failure zone?
Anyway I have a good guess as to what most of the employees there are going to be doing for the next six months.
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AWS and Azure have had "big" outages people because actually use them. Rackspace and IBM are almost neck and neck with Google's best efforts (3% markshare Vs. 30%/40% for Azure/AWS)[0]. [0] https://www.skyhighnetworks.com/cloud-security-blog/microsof...
The biggest and most popular services run on Google Cloud. https://cloud.google.com/customers/ You know....services consumers actually use.
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#66Visual Studio Online has been offline all day. They say it is due to the same Azure outage. This has had a productivity impact. If Microsoft didn't own GitHub, this may have prompted a move, but since they do it seems a little redundant given that Github will likely be on Azure too before long. https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/vsoservice/?p=17405
You can use git outside of GitHub and Microsoft though, I mean, you could always use bitbucket.
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Google doesn't have near the cloud presence of Amazon and Microsoft...maybe one day when they do, we can properly compare them. Given Google's small size/role in the space it's impossible to gauge if this is true.
Google is fairly near MS (Azure did $1.9B in Q1, and GCP+Google Apps did $1.7B). But AWS is ~2.5x the other two.
Google has ~3% market share compared to Microsoft's ~28% and Amazon's ~40%. Not even in the same league at the moment. Google is more on par with IBM and Rackspace, for now. Google will undoubtedly make strides in the space, but they haven't been tested.
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The biggest and most popular services run on Google Cloud. https://cloud.google.com/customers/ You know....services consumers actually use.
I'm sure services I use run on all of the major cloud providers, but if that page was supposed to be enlightening, I only recognized one brand from the first page of customers. I refreshed a couple times, and sure, I saw more (on average 1 or 2) that I recognized on each page. But I don't think your response is particularly persuasive. Are you suggesting that the services that I use that run on AWS are in fact, not s…
So the first page was supposed to be indicative of all of the popular consumer facing services they host? Here, let me help you out: Spotify, eBay, Twitter, Apple iCloud, Verizon, Vimeo, Netflix, etc
>I refreshed a couple times, and sure, I saw more (on average 1 or 2) that I recognized on each page. But I don't think your response is particularly persuasive. Are you suggesting that the services that I use that run on AWS are in fact, not services I actually use?
What popular consumer services were on AWS again?
>Edit: Do you hold any Alphabet/Google stock? I've noticed your comment history trends toward dismissing criticism of Google, praising their products, and taking opportunities to speak about the flaws of their top competitors.
Do you own Microsoft stock? Because quote a few of your posts seem to praise their products and services. Do you work for them?
Re: Microsoft Azure suffers outage after cooling issue
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I wonder if that's one of their facilities down here in San Antonio. Was getting flash flood alerts on my phone all night and morning.
Wow, I didn't tie these two events together until reading this comment. The flash floods last night were quite awful. mySA, a local news site (which I don't necessarily trust), has said that the daily rainfall total was 3x its historic record in the 1800s. [0] It's always quite fascinating whenever cloud platforms like this have "leaky abstractions." GCP had a very long storage service degradation today, as well. [1]…
> SAN ANTONIO - Heavy rain caused flash flooding Monday night in northern Bexar County and extending into Comal County. Some areas had up to 9 inches of rain, and water rose on some roadways, including Interstate 10.
> Tuesday morning, the National Weather Service said via social media that parts of San Antonio had up to 6.07 inches of rain, which "smashes" the daily rainfall record of 1.76 inches from 1889.
> Over 9 inches of rain was observed around Stone Oak Parkway, and more than 8 inches between Shavano Park and Camp Bullis, according to the NWS website.
https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/weather/article/mysananton...
Re: Microsoft Azure suffers outage after cooling issue
#70Visual Studio Online has been offline all day. They say it is due to the same Azure outage. This has had a productivity impact. If Microsoft didn't own GitHub, this may have prompted a move, but since they do it seems a little redundant given that Github will likely be on Azure too before long. https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/vsoservice/?p=17405
In my experience git is excellent at being offline. I’m not sure if we would have had problem if our team foundation setup had ever went off line, but we moved to git long ago because it’s what every single IT-based student learns in my country. With every potential hire knowing git and almost none of them knowing tfd/vsts, it seemed silly not to migrate since the platforms both work well for what we need and git was…