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Please take the next step https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_Copyright_Viola...
Nearly 2000 words on how I can police their website for them? No, thanks. If they took this problem seriously they would build a system to catch copy-paste before it went live on their site.
Wikimedia warns EU copyright reform threatens the ‘vibrant free web’
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Re: Wikimedia warns EU copyright reform threatens the ‘vibrant free web’
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Nearly 2000 words on how I can police their website for them? No, thanks. If they took this problem seriously they would build a system to catch copy-paste before it went live on their site.
I think they already have such systems via bots, but they don't block or undo things automatically because I assume it's hard to know programmatically the licence of things that are posted on the Internet.
Re: Wikimedia warns EU copyright reform threatens the ‘vibrant free web’
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Please take the next step https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_Copyright_Viola...
Wikipedia should verify the copyright before allowing changes. It should not be the publishers responsibility to enforce the copyright. Wikipedia should be responsible because they decided they wanted to allow anyone to edit. They should hire moderators, and if they cannot moderate, they should not run a platform of theft.
Why not?
Copyright is an unnatural right created in the name of encouraging creative output; if the person who owns the rights to control copying a work don’t enforce it, why should the rest of us do it for them?
Re: Wikimedia warns EU copyright reform threatens the ‘vibrant free web’
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I think they already have such systems via bots, but they don't block or undo things automatically because I assume it's hard to know programmatically the licence of things that are posted on the Internet.
It it is hard, that they should not run wikipedia.
Re: Wikimedia warns EU copyright reform threatens the ‘vibrant free web’
#15Unfortunately, there isn’t a vibrant free web. Wikipedia is about the only major non-ad supported website that normal people visit. Most user content is probably on Facebook or Medium. Most breaking news is first available on twitter. Even independent websites, most likely have Google analytics and Google ads. From a European point of view, the current copyright situation is just a wealth transfer from European compa…
Re: Wikimedia warns EU copyright reform threatens the ‘vibrant free web’
#16Unfortunately, there isn’t a vibrant free web. Wikipedia is about the only major non-ad supported website that normal people visit. Most user content is probably on Facebook or Medium. Most breaking news is first available on twitter. Even independent websites, most likely have Google analytics and Google ads. From a European point of view, the current copyright situation is just a wealth transfer from European compa…
My thought exactly. If there is a `vibrant free web`, I can't see it.
If every submission had to be pre-moderated, and royalty paid for every substantial quotation, this site would be very different, and definitely less vibrant and free.
Re: Wikimedia warns EU copyright reform threatens the ‘vibrant free web’
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
Please take the next step https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_Copyright_Viola...
Wikipedia should verify the copyright before allowing changes. It should not be the publishers responsibility to enforce the copyright. Wikipedia should be responsible because they decided they wanted to allow anyone to edit. They should hire moderators, and if they cannot moderate, they should not run a platform of theft.
Maybe we should shift the burden of proof on you? Can you prove that you are not violating copyright with your post? If you can't do it, how on earth can Wikipedia do it?
In the Soviet Union, this was called "Prove that you are not a camel."
Re: Wikimedia warns EU copyright reform threatens the ‘vibrant free web’
#18Unfortunately, there isn’t a vibrant free web. Wikipedia is about the only major non-ad supported website that normal people visit. Most user content is probably on Facebook or Medium. Most breaking news is first available on twitter. Even independent websites, most likely have Google analytics and Google ads. From a European point of view, the current copyright situation is just a wealth transfer from European compa…
> Wikipedia is about the only major non-ad supported website that normal people visit. Which costs $69 million per year to operate, has 300+ employees and requires six million donations. Your example also isn't free. > Most user content is probably on Facebook or Medium Medium is less than 1% the size of Wordpress, both in terms of traffic and amount of content. The majority of all content on Wordpress sites is ad fr…
Re: Wikimedia warns EU copyright reform threatens the ‘vibrant free web’
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Please take the next step https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_Copyright_Viola...
Wikipedia should verify the copyright before allowing changes. It should not be the publishers responsibility to enforce the copyright. Wikipedia should be responsible because they decided they wanted to allow anyone to edit. They should hire moderators, and if they cannot moderate, they should not run a platform of theft.
Re: Wikimedia warns EU copyright reform threatens the ‘vibrant free web’
#20Unfortunately, there isn’t a vibrant free web. Wikipedia is about the only major non-ad supported website that normal people visit. Most user content is probably on Facebook or Medium. Most breaking news is first available on twitter. Even independent websites, most likely have Google analytics and Google ads. From a European point of view, the current copyright situation is just a wealth transfer from European compa…
> Wikipedia is about the only major non-ad supported website that normal people visit. Which costs $69 million per year to operate, has 300+ employees and requires six million donations. Your example also isn't free. > Most user content is probably on Facebook or Medium Medium is less than 1% the size of Wordpress, both in terms of traffic and amount of content. The majority of all content on Wordpress sites is ad fr…
It’s a bit ridiculous that something so important to so many people relies on donations from individuals.