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Re: Ask HN: Is the new MacBook Pro worth its value for a developer?

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post #163

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> I should add that a "Service Battery" warning has popped up recently, so maybe it's just an issue with my machine. Yep, all 2016 MBPs have terrible battery life, when they have faulty batteries and are directly telling you that’s the issue!

That battery warning came only recently. Battery life has been terrible all along. Anecdata, anecdata. But again, the design capacity of the MBP battery is less than that of the MB Air. It’s a questionable trade-off for a “pro” machine.

> the design capacity of the MBP battery is less than that of the MB Air.

Correct, the MB Air is rated at 12hrs for “wireless web”, the MB Pro is 10hrs for “wireless web”.

> It’s a questionable trade-off for a “pro” machine.

You must have a very opinionated view of “pro” that doesn’t fit the normal reality. A usual “pro” (at least in Apple’s context) is usually (but obviously not always) sitting somewhere with a power outlet. The battery is intended for meetings or other moderate duration periods of disconnect. If you want a laptop for being completely mobile, then go with one designed for that purpose (MacBook, MacBook Air, iPad w/ keyboard). If you want desktop class performance in a portable form factor, then there are trade-offs, and battery being one of the heaviest parts, that’s usually it. While I think Apple’s obsession with thinness at all costs is questionable to me, laptop weight being as minimal as possible isn’t, especially to my back that carries it each day.

Re: Ask HN: Is the new MacBook Pro worth its value for a developer?

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post #147

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If you feel your laptop has made you a permanently angry person, why not sell it and cut your loses?

I would also say no, absolutely not. It's not worth it in the least. I have been a Mac user for less time (~16 years for me) than the previous commenter. I have lost confidence in Apple's ability to deliver: a. a quality laptop that can get the job done, and b. a quality OS that I can trust to just work. I am typing this to you from a Dell XPS 9560 because the 2016 MBP w/Touch Bar has been such a shitshow. It's been…

"I HAVE tried to sell my MBP even at a significant discount over the purchase price. (bought for $4300, I'm asking $3000 and even lowered to $2500) NO BITES. The machine is in immaculate condition, too."

I think that your problem is that the secondary market doesn't care about specs. They care about the Apple logo on the back, for the most part. So your extra RAM and bigger SSD aren't features to them. They just see the cost is $1000-$1500 more than they could buy a new one for.

Re: Ask HN: Is the new MacBook Pro worth its value for a developer?

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post #79

Absolutely not. I have the top of the range 15" MacBook Pro and I despise it, it's without question the worst computer I've ever owned. 1. The Touch Bar is appalling if you're at all a touch typist. It puts destructive actions just an accidental brush of the finger tip away. 2. The keyboard is failing all over the place. My left command key has fallen off, and three keys occasionally stick resulting in double entries…

As a 2012 iMac user, I'm saddened that every macOS upgrade slows down the computer even more...

Re: Ask HN: Is the new MacBook Pro worth its value for a developer?

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Disrespectful? It’s short for “brother” and is used the same way as “mate” in those parts.

Could have been worse with an Australian, then it might have been c... :)

cute

Re: Ask HN: Is the new MacBook Pro worth its value for a developer?

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Gotta chime in here:

I'm using the new MPB at work (they give them out for free so why not), and I can't say that I really have any problems with it. Granted, they keyboard is...weird (such tight, low action on the keys) but not horrible, the touchpad is HUGE, but I generally don't have a problem with this as I don't use a mouse. Lastly, the touchbar is (as others have mentioned) just completely unecessary. Why Apple? Do you care about web surfers that much more than devs? (Answer: yes). Granted, the physical specs of the machine aren't crazy (quad core, 16G RAM, 256G SSD, Intel Core i7), pretty standard for a upper-shelf laptop.

So I recently bought a HIDevolution Asus ROG Zephyrus GX501VI 15.6 inch Gaming Laptop. It has Windows (which makes me sad), but I cannot WAIT to get this baby out of the box. Intel Core i7, 1TB SSD, 24G RAM, Nvidia 1070 (swappable), quad core It's a tiny little beast fit for gaming, dev work, and running a node for smart contract work.

I honestly feel like I've broken the mental spell that Apple had over my mind. We all know their computers are 150% the cost, for 70% the performance - but for some reason I kept buying Mac laptops. No more though! I'm free, and I refuse to go back to burning my money for a cool laptop. I'm done. Finite.

Re: Ask HN: Is the new MacBook Pro worth its value for a developer?

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post #175

Gotta chime in here: I'm using the new MPB at work (they give them out for free so why not), and I can't say that I really have any problems with it. Granted, they keyboard is...weird (such tight, low action on the keys) but not horrible, the touchpad is HUGE , but I generally don't have a problem with this as I don't use a mouse. Lastly, the touchbar is (as others have mentioned) just completely unecessary. Why Appl…

> I honestly feel like I've broken the mental spell that Apple had over my mind.

Same here. For me, it was the lack of updates on the MacBook Air, and the horrendous mess that is the OS since 10.10 (10.13 is the worst Mac OS I have ever used. I started with 7.5.3).

Re: Ask HN: Is the new MacBook Pro worth its value for a developer?

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I had to switch to a new laptop last year after my old MBP first generation retina died. I couldn't justify the price, the specs and the keyboard of a new MBP anymore and after much deliberation I chose a $1200 HP Spectre x360. I do mostly web development work (Ember.js, PHP and Node), and after running Win10 for a few weeks and hating the performance (especially for Node). I installed Ubuntu Budgie, and have been sm…

Any problems with the touch screen working in Ubuntu? Can you still use the pen to sketch in drawing programs etc? I need a good Linux-friendly laptop with touch screen for sketching as well as code dev, so I'm very curious about this one.

Sorry. Only just saw your question.

The touchscreen works out of the box, but I don't use it that often, the few times I've used it I noticed that if I have an issue it's mostly related to the program I'm using and the lack of proper touchscreen support for that particular program.

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