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Ask HN: Is the new MacBook Pro worth its value for a developer?

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Re: Ask HN: Is the new MacBook Pro worth its value for a developer?

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Check energy consumption tab in activity viewer. Something is likely vampiring power without you realizing.

Yes, did that. Nothing showed up :/

Neither here. Safari was chugging along, WindowServer, bla bla. Nothing suspicious. I should add that a "Service Battery" warning has popped up recently, so maybe it's just an issue with my machine. Will bring it in.

Re: Ask HN: Is the new MacBook Pro worth its value for a developer?

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I recently went through the new laptop experience. When it came down to it, I couldn't justify spending the money on an MBP that would meet my needs. My decision came down to a few things: 1.) I hate the touch bar and you can pry the function keys out of my cold, dead hands. (I like saying that.) 2.) To get an MBP that will provide enough power for me, I'd need to upgrade to a touch bar only model. 3.) MBPs are serio…

> To get an MBP with similar performance to those other machines, I would have to pay approximately $1,000 more. Examples? MBPs have been reported to have the fastest SSDs on the market since 2016 [0], and I doubt you can get laptops with the same resolution and wide color gamut for much cheaper. [0] https://9to5mac.com/2016/11/01/2016-macbook-pro-ssd/

That comparison is against consumer laptops with SATA SSDs. The MBP's sequential read/write is average for NVMe SSDs, and a mobile workstation like a ThinkPad can be configured with multiple NVM SSDs in a RAID configuration, giving even higher throughput.

Re: Ask HN: Is the new MacBook Pro worth its value for a developer?

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I use the latest 2018 one for work. It's ok but just ok. Personally I will not be buying a MacBook pro as the current models stand. Not a fan of the touchbar. I accidentally hit buttons on it as i rest the tips of my fingers on the top row, the siri button on the top right above delete was the biggest problem. Likewise I hate the context of the keys switching between apps, the escape key dispersing or volume buttons…

I've posted about the Surface Book a ton of times, but I can't recommend it enough. I bought it when Apple delayed their MBP offering, and I'm glad I made the switch.

As a Linux desktop, there were some teething issues with the first gen Surface Book, but I've managed to get Debian running with minimal fuss.

Re: Ask HN: Is the new MacBook Pro worth its value for a developer?

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Absolutely not. I have the top of the range 15" MacBook Pro and I despise it, it's without question the worst computer I've ever owned. 1. The Touch Bar is appalling if you're at all a touch typist. It puts destructive actions just an accidental brush of the finger tip away. 2. The keyboard is failing all over the place. My left command key has fallen off, and three keys occasionally stick resulting in double entries…

Couldn't agree with you more. The new MacBooks are lemons. The giant trackpad is a huge complaint of mine I don't hear a lot. Why on Earth would apple make it so big??

What's wrong with it? The only thing I could imagine is maybe accidentally touching it?

It happens maybe once a month for me, not nearly enough complain for me. Personally I love the size of it.

Re: Ask HN: Is the new MacBook Pro worth its value for a developer?

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I use a MacBook Pro Retina 13" Early 2015, and it's amazing. I hope it lasts forever. I've tried a friends new MBP and I can't stand the keyboard, or the dongles. When I sit at my work desk, I have 2x DisplayPorts to my monitors, a USB 3.0 hub, and often a USB thumb drive. Swapping to USB-C would be a pain. My biggest gripe with Apple's current MBP line up is the insulting specs you get for the price. I can buy a 128…

> When I sit at my work desk, I have 2x DisplayPorts to my monitors, a USB 3.0 hub, and often a USB thumb drive. Swapping to USB-C would be a pain. So with your setup that’s four cables to reconnect each time I need to get up for a meeting, where as I have a single cable (that single cable provides power, USB, a 5K and a 4K display, and Ethernet in my setup). Yep, sounds less painful to me too!

I don't want the answer to everything to be "Buy a dongle". I have a similar setup at home to my work setup, almost identical - do I need another dongle/hub for home?

I also work from my parents house if I'm visiting, they have a monitor I use, and my girlfriends parents (again if we're visiting) has a dual screen setup in their office I can use.

Do I buy a Hub/dongle for each location? Do I carry one with me at all times? (Good job they made the laptop light as I'll now need 38kg of adapters).

Oh wait, I don't have any of these problems, I just take my 2015 MBP and it plugs in to whatever is there. Nice.

Re: Ask HN: Is the new MacBook Pro worth its value for a developer?

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> When I sit at my work desk, I have 2x DisplayPorts to my monitors, a USB 3.0 hub, and often a USB thumb drive. Swapping to USB-C would be a pain. So with your setup that’s four cables to reconnect each time I need to get up for a meeting, where as I have a single cable (that single cable provides power, USB, a 5K and a 4K display, and Ethernet in my setup). Yep, sounds less painful to me too!

I don't want the answer to everything to be "Buy a dongle". I have a similar setup at home to my work setup, almost identical - do I need another dongle/hub for home? I also work from my parents house if I'm visiting, they have a monitor I use, and my girlfriends parents (again if we're visiting) has a dual screen setup in their office I can use. Do I buy a Hub/dongle for each location? Do I carry one with me at all…

Also, let's not get started on the travesty that is the loss of MagSafe...

Re: Ask HN: Is the new MacBook Pro worth its value for a developer?

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Then the difference became battery life. It's been a few years since I ran linux on a laptop; has that improved?

No. Linux can’t match Mac OS on battery life.

This has been my experience as well. Apple seems to have spent a lot of effort in making their software use very little energy. Check out the energy usage of Safari vs Chrome sometime, for example.

Re: Ask HN: Is the new MacBook Pro worth its value for a developer?

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I don't want the answer to everything to be "Buy a dongle". I have a similar setup at home to my work setup, almost identical - do I need another dongle/hub for home? I also work from my parents house if I'm visiting, they have a monitor I use, and my girlfriends parents (again if we're visiting) has a dual screen setup in their office I can use. Do I buy a Hub/dongle for each location? Do I carry one with me at all…

Also, let's not get started on the travesty that is the loss of MagSafe...

Because yeah, there ~aren’t any~ actually is tons of comparable USB-C cables with the same breakaway mechanism as MagSafe.

Re: Ask HN: Is the new MacBook Pro worth its value for a developer?

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There is only 2 good reasons to buy a mac. Applications you use are Mac dependent, you need crazy long battery life. I haven't used a chrome book, I have heard they're pretty good. Considering those things, if you want to get power, buy a Dell Precision or an HP Zbook, or a Lenovo T series laptop. Dell Precision laptops are built like tanks, real workstation workhorses. Dell/Zbook/lenovo laptops will never give you f…

   > There is only 2 good reasons to buy a mac. Applications you use are Mac dependent, you need crazy long battery life. 
how about compiling valid ( apple store's compatible ) iOS apps ?... Xcode falls into the first category, i reckon. Is there any viable alternatives ? My trials with hackintoshed VMs ( host is running Linux ) is not good at all. Frustrating, actually.

Re: Ask HN: Is the new MacBook Pro worth its value for a developer?

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I recently upgraded to the new 2018 model with Core i9 and 32GB of RAM. For my kind of development the RAM was a huge bottleneck and since I upgraded it’s been definitively better, I did had a rMBP 2016 which I was angry at just like the others, but I decided to give Apple one last chance and so far I’m fairly happy with my rMBP 2018 (i9/32GB RAM) so I’d recommend it
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