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In Kenya, “sugar” relationships have become both more common and more visible

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Re: In Kenya, “sugar” relationships have become both more common and more visible

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post #29

Aside: I'd rather have a classic article with images and videos instead of that constant over- and underscrolling, images appearing and disappearing etc. I think the innovation is a bit compulsive.

This was one of the few articles where I appreciated Firefox's Reader View.

Re: In Kenya, “sugar” relationships have become both more common and more visible

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Please discount the fact that I am a bit of a misanthrope, but... who the hell enters in a relationship not expecting to get something in return?

The way I see it is that although in most relationships people expect reciprocation, they differ in how strictly the people involved are keeping tabs on the difference between how much each is contributing. In relationships like the ones described in this article, both parties are paying more attention to whether they're getting what they perceive to be a fair reward for what they are providing to the other, and shou…

> ... should the balance ever shift too far out of their favor, they will presumably end the relationship.

This pretty much describes all relationships except those where one falls horribly ill or the ones where one sticks around despite abuse.

> They just do the nice thing, knowing that in the past the other has done the same for them. Only if there comes to be a very long period of non-reciprocation will the other party wake to the one-sidedness of the relationship and begin to reconsider.

I think this might be the case in many sugar relationships. That's why it's sometimes hard to describe them as just sex work.

Re: In Kenya, “sugar” relationships have become both more common and more visible

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post #4

Please discount the fact that I am a bit of a misanthrope, but... who the hell enters in a relationship not expecting to get something in return?

What you said is close to a tautology, and like most tautologies, they are merely a play on words and don't leave any substantial insight.

Tautologies are things that are known to be true thanks to sheer logic of them.

They are very useful becaus they can be solid foundation of any derivation.

Re: In Kenya, “sugar” relationships have become both more common and more visible

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post #29

Aside: I'd rather have a classic article with images and videos instead of that constant over- and underscrolling, images appearing and disappearing etc. I think the innovation is a bit compulsive.

No! It's cool and hip, plus the template was not very configurable! :)

Re: In Kenya, “sugar” relationships have become both more common and more visible

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The way I see it is that although in most relationships people expect reciprocation, they differ in how strictly the people involved are keeping tabs on the difference between how much each is contributing. In relationships like the ones described in this article, both parties are paying more attention to whether they're getting what they perceive to be a fair reward for what they are providing to the other, and shou…

> ... should the balance ever shift too far out of their favor, they will presumably end the relationship. This pretty much describes all relationships except those where one falls horribly ill or the ones where one sticks around despite abuse. > They just do the nice thing, knowing that in the past the other has done the same for them. Only if there comes to be a very long period of non-reciprocation will the other…

But on a scale, typically closer to sex work and much farther from friendship, right?

Re: In Kenya, “sugar” relationships have become both more common and more visible

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I'd like to hear of any HNers who are involved in this lifestyle. Given SV pay, it must be not unheard of.

Theres a whole subreddit about it and a few SVs guys talk openly (but anonymously) about it there.

Re: In Kenya, “sugar” relationships have become both more common and more visible

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FWIW, this is rampant in many parts of Asia, too, with a similar discrepancy between traditional culture (Confucianism in China, Catholicism in the Philippines, Buddhism in Thailand, Islam in Indonesia, ...) and today's realities.

Several young women maintain several distinct social media identities: one for family, one for friends, one for "daddies".

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