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$600 Chromebooks are a dangerous development for Microsoft

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Re: $600 Chromebooks are a dangerous development for Microsoft

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To be fair, after over a decade of trying, Apple still only has 15% market share. If Microsoft had the other 85%, they'd be in a good position.

Why should Apple care about the other 85% of the market if all the profit margin is in the 15% they have?

Because eventually developers will stop bothering with iOS apps.

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Then they all come back with the next update.

I'm in the insider program, they don't/haven't come back in ages.

I just had to delete "Candy Crush Soda Saga". Was it there before I did that ridiculous registry hack to prevent it? Or did they add a new one at some point... Who knows. Its clear they don't actually want people disabling the installation of them.

Re: $600 Chromebooks are a dangerous development for Microsoft

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Or the web version, or just use any number of alternatives, not like a word processor is a unique product

There are times when you want to use a laptop without an internet connection. GSuite is not comparable because it is not a standalone, 'desktop' application. I don't want to have to use a version stuffed into a browser.

So use libreoffice.

https://support.google.com/chromebook/answer/3214688?hl=en-G... says gmail, calendar, keep, docs, sheets, slides and drive work offline, plus there's a filter for offline apps.

However I was referring to MS Office Online

Re: $600 Chromebooks are a dangerous development for Microsoft

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In no way are your name, DoB, location, gender and phone number some of your most private and personal details. Firstly you can lie. Second: turn off sync, turn on Do Not Track, turn off Manage Passwords, autocomplete, prediction, malware protection, spellcheck, diagnostic data and drm id. Or stop caring about such minor problems unless you're a spy

>Or stop caring about such minor problems unless you're a spy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_to_hide_argument

That's about government. As I said, you can turn off all the tracking and lie about all the questions they ask, you can use guest mode, whatever you want, it's not really a problem if you care.

And your DOB isn't massively personal information, get a grip. Not like they're asking if you believe in the state religion, who you voted for, are you loyal to the party, which of your friends you have suspicions about, do you have more than 1 child, do you love someone of a different religion, have you seen anyone with more resources than they should have, is there anyone hiding in your attic, etc etc

Re: $600 Chromebooks are a dangerous development for Microsoft

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I think that's quite a bit premature. Yes, Microsoft has done a great job diversifying of late, but Windows is still a huge percentage of their revenue. Also, my guess is that people that use Windows are much more likely to use Office (even the cloud version), which is the next biggest part of their revenue.

Google hasn’t made any real profit on anything besides advertising during its whole existence. It’s much less diversified than Microsoft, Apple, or Amazon.

I disagree with that. First, Google's other businesses are growing very fast, much faster than its overall ad business: https://qz.com/1334369/alphabet-q2-2018-earnings-google-is-m... .

Second, and I think perhaps more fundamentally, Google is incredibly well diversified among ad channels, so I think lumping that all together and then drawing the conclusion "Google is at risk because they get all their money from ads" misses the mark. Google has AdWords, AdSense, DoubleClick, YouTube, Android, GMail, Google Assistant/Nest, etc. They may be dependent on ads but they control a staggering breadth of ad channels.

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Google hasn’t made any real profit on anything besides advertising during its whole existence. It’s much less diversified than Microsoft, Apple, or Amazon.

I disagree with that. First, Google's other businesses are growing very fast, much faster than its overall ad business: https://qz.com/1334369/alphabet-q2-2018-earnings-google-is-m... . Second, and I think perhaps more fundamentally, Google is incredibly well diversified among ad channels , so I think lumping that all together and then drawing the conclusion "Google is at risk because they get all their money from ad…

86% of their revenue is still ad based, YouTube is widely thought just to be break even and I specifically said profit not revenue. How much of thier profit is ad based and how many of thier other ventures are losing money?

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Seeing that in 2008 a midrange laptop came with 4GB of RAM and 10 years later, a low end laptop - like the Surface Go - still only has 4GB of RAM and has less storage than my 10 year old laptop.

Can you point to some? I am searching and even high end ones came with 2gb. If I search for midrange laptop and 2008 I get your comment of 16 hrs ago. In my (for sure limited) memory, 4gb was rare back then; high end laptops had it but I had to search for them and pay a lot. I definitely paid $3000$ for a Fujitsu with 4gb back then (I still have it, it still works and I have the receipt); best laptop ever but definit…

This is the laptop that I still have and was used as a Plex server up until a month ago.

https://www.cnet.com/products/dell-latitude-e6500/specs/

It came out in October 2008

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Dell-Latitude-E6500-Not...

Re: $600 Chromebooks are a dangerous development for Microsoft

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What if my wm does not support wayland? If it provides more security (I guess applications cannot draw over other applications, nor grab keyboard input unless they're in focus), then how can I have a wm? How can I have a screensaver? Is there any reason to use it if most of my applications are running in xwayland?

Less code runs as root than with X, since the server is far more lean. There should be zero tearing or artifacts in Wayland, and the latency should be lower as well. Both due to passive compositing. Screensavers are a pointless waste of energy. I'm not sure why you mention them. In Wayland, WM/DE use IPC to communicate with each other; not X. In theory you can run multiple XWayland servers to separate from each other…

I still don't see how it is more secure. If the WM can use IPC and tell wayland 'hey, I want to send this keystroke' or 'what were the keyboard inputs?' then why can't some malicious application do the same?

Can I run multiple wayland servers separate from each other? If not, then I still don't see how wm can prevent a random application from pretending to be a wm but actually being a keylogger.

Re: $600 Chromebooks are a dangerous development for Microsoft

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Less code runs as root than with X, since the server is far more lean. There should be zero tearing or artifacts in Wayland, and the latency should be lower as well. Both due to passive compositing. Screensavers are a pointless waste of energy. I'm not sure why you mention them. In Wayland, WM/DE use IPC to communicate with each other; not X. In theory you can run multiple XWayland servers to separate from each other…

I still don't see how it is more secure. If the WM can use IPC and tell wayland 'hey, I want to send this keystroke' or 'what were the keyboard inputs?' then why can't some malicious application do the same? Can I run multiple wayland servers separate from each other? If not, then I still don't see how wm can prevent a random application from pretending to be a wm but actually being a keylogger.

The Wayland compositor does that kind of task, not the DE/WM like with X. That's why porting to Wayland isn't trivial. The server has many less lines of code leading to a lower attack surface, and lower latency or less tearing, and better HiDPI functionality.

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This isn't true at all. The ENTIRE industry had to re-invent itself MANY times - and MANY companies failed and have long since shutdown. Microsoft on the other hand has survived - and not only maintained backwards compatibility but embraced new technologies - and is doing so at a breakneck pace today. Microsoft research is a top notch research company. Microsoft is also a large, if not the largest, contributor to Lin…

> Microsoft is also a large, if not the largest, contributor to Linux & Open source. I always hear things like this. What exactly are they contributing though? > Windows has maintained a level of compatibility second to none to support all that legacy As far as I can tell, if you want to run a legacy Windows app, you're more likely to be successful running it in Wine on Linux.

>I always hear things like this. What exactly are they contributing though?

Their employees contribute tons of code to the kernel and they're a premium partner in the Linux foundation paying Linus's salary. They contribute to the kernel, hadoop, mesos, k8s, they contribute to gcc, heck they let you run linux on windows now with Linux subsystem and have official partnerships with redhat, suse, ubuntu. They also open sourced C#, they contribute to jenkins, so much mroe.

>As far as I can tell, if you want to run a legacy Windows app, you're more likely to be successful running it in Wine on Linux.

no sane person would do that. Just run it in compatibility mode on Windows 10.

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