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Re: Ask HN: Is the new MacBook Pro worth its value for a developer?

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You are user spacing it wrong.

Isn't the point of a user space to protect the kernel and keep the OS from crashing?

No.

What userspace is is where you work happens. It has no universal obligation to protect the kernel.

You could possibly say that the point of working in userspace (instead of in kernel space) is to protect the kernel.

Re: Ask HN: Is the new MacBook Pro worth its value for a developer?

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Do you really need 16GB of RAM, more storage and a beefy CPU? For reference, I'm using a 12-inch MacBook with a dual-core M3 processor and 8 GB of RAM as my daily driver and it's more than enough; this thing somehow runs IntelliJ and around 5 Docker containers in the background (including Javascript stuff with 1000+ dependencies) and has plenty of resources to spare. Now I do agree the new MacBooks have a lot of draw…

> Do you really need 16GB of RAM, more storage and a beefy CPU?

Why be so presumptuous? My main computer is a 12 Core Xeon Mac Pro with 128gb RAM and dual high end video cards and I still run into issues needing more horse power (which admittedly AWS/GCP makes mostly easy to consume).

Re: Ask HN: Is the new MacBook Pro worth its value for a developer?

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I've owned a 2016/17 MacBook Pro. Don't do it, OP. The '16/17 models feature the defective keyboard that will eventually break. Plus, they don't have the T2 chip. I currently own a 2018 MacBook Pro which I like very much, but don't love. I paid $1,599 for it (13" 8GB/256GB w/ Touch Bar) here: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1423729-REG/apple_mr9...

What's the benefit of the T2 chip? Your other criticisms of the 16/17 model years are valid.

> What's the benefit of the T2 chip?

Extra security. It’s definitely a strong nice to have for me, but anyone who makes it a key purchase decision is likely jumping the shark imho.

Re: Ask HN: Is the new MacBook Pro worth its value for a developer?

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There is only 2 good reasons to buy a mac. Applications you use are Mac dependent, you need crazy long battery life. I haven't used a chrome book, I have heard they're pretty good. Considering those things, if you want to get power, buy a Dell Precision or an HP Zbook, or a Lenovo T series laptop. Dell Precision laptops are built like tanks, real workstation workhorses. Dell/Zbook/lenovo laptops will never give you f…

The MB Pro the OP is asking about doesn’t even have crazy long battery life though. Its battery stores less energy than the MB Air IIRC. My 2016 MBP ‘Escape’ gives up after about 4 hours with not much more than Safari browser and an editor running.

Check energy consumption tab in activity viewer. Something is likely vampiring power without you realizing.

Re: Ask HN: Is the new MacBook Pro worth its value for a developer?

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I have a 2018 15" MBP with 32gb of RAM. So far, knock on wood, it is acting fine. I am going to buy AppleCare+ immediately now after reading these comments. I feel even more ripped off though. This doesn't include the $300 I had to spend on an OWC TB3 dock to be able to connect my other drives, wired ethernet, etc.

I bought this machine because my entire workflow has been Apple for 25 years and the thought of switching is overwhelming. I have tried to go "cold turkey" before and switch to Windows and I just can't get used to it. For a few things yes.

However, I am more determined to try and get out of Apple's grip. So, I am moving parts of my workflow to Virtual Box VM's and slowly adding more and more until I get comfortable, find solutions, etc. Hopefully by my next laptop purchase I can find a non-apple machine.

The touch-bar is pointless. I hate it and don't use it unless I have to. The keyboard still feels weird to me. I tend to use an external keyboard and mouse.

Re: Ask HN: Is the new MacBook Pro worth its value for a developer?

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If you feel your laptop has made you a permanently angry person, why not sell it and cut your loses?

After spending a decade optimizing your workflow to work with Apple's operating system, and after investing tons of money into software and peripherals designed for this ecosystem, it isn't so easy to just give up on it all, even if it is pissing you off and making your life miserable: you essentially just sit around having regrets and building up anger at the idiots who screwed it all up.

No, really, you have to leave.

If you don't switch, are you going to use only Apple products your entire life from now? Seriously?

There are many, many devs right now who is switching from MacBooks to Linux machines because Linux on the desktop is really nice (just not perfect), and you suddenly feel very much alive again when you don't sit and wait for Apple to fix your problems. You fix them yourself, and you no longer care for the next version of IOS or the next MacBook etc.

t's freedom, honestly, truly. You are single again. You have left the bad relationship. You are free and happy. So much choice all of a sudden. It's great!

Re: Ask HN: Is the new MacBook Pro worth its value for a developer?

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post #119

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If you feel your laptop has made you a permanently angry person, why not sell it and cut your loses?

After spending a decade optimizing your workflow to work with Apple's operating system, and after investing tons of money into software and peripherals designed for this ecosystem, it isn't so easy to just give up on it all, even if it is pissing you off and making your life miserable: you essentially just sit around having regrets and building up anger at the idiots who screwed it all up.

https://github.com/wmchris/DellXPS15-9550-OSX

Re: Ask HN: Is the new MacBook Pro worth its value for a developer?

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I have a 2018 15" MBP with 32gb of RAM. So far, knock on wood, it is acting fine. I am going to buy AppleCare+ immediately now after reading these comments. I feel even more ripped off though. This doesn't include the $300 I had to spend on an OWC TB3 dock to be able to connect my other drives, wired ethernet, etc. I bought this machine because my entire workflow has been Apple for 25 years and the thought of switchi…

Windows is by far the most annoying operating system out there. You want Linux. It's really easy to use these days and works pretty good. It's not perfect and you will have some trouble shooting but it's a lot better than sitting and waiting for Apple or Microsoft. You become totally dependant on them. No developer should ever be dependent like that.

Re: Ask HN: Is the new MacBook Pro worth its value for a developer?

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amen to that its always easier to fix it yourself when the part is the only problem. apple is a full service shop that will quote you a price and then get it done. they wont ask any questions and just let it all happen.

It's just a shame —with all brands— that original parts aren't the more readily available. I don't want a knock-off batteries or screens. They're cheap because they're not top-flight materials and invariably break much quicker than what they're replacing. And those that claim to be genuine are often even shittier.

there isn't a universal standard for this, but some companies do provide raw parts officialy for instance Samsung allows you to get any replacement parts for any of their phones or electronics on their website.
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