I really like using the terminal when it makes my workflow faster, using git etc. But checking email and YouTube? No thanks.
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#73Will the terminal ever disappear? I would assume that the percentage of computer users who do significant work in a terminal (email, IRC, coding, etc.) is still decreasing steadily today. What I'm not sure about, how does this decline in penetration compare to the (still real) growth in the worldwide computer user base? Seems that at least the Internet user base is still growing ~10% p.a. What does this mean for abso…
Terminal is vital for reproducibility/automation. It's an interactive config file, where a config file must be portable
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#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
But if you had to do something now on some alien OS that you didn't know the internals of, wouldn't you prefer a GUI?
Contrary to everyone else here: hell yes, every single time. GUIs are discoverable, and have lower friction for first time users. Example : a video codec GUI will always be easier to use than ffmpeg. I still Google how to use ffmpeg after 10years , and I have to read the entire man page because I don’t know what I don’t know ! Is there a newer, better option to this flag available? Like lame for mp3s (another great e…
it's not cli, it's the way it's designed.
had a pervasive semi structured fuzzy matching at the OS level so anybody writing a program can have a good completion without resorting to shell generators and enjoy easy discoverability.
GUIs are easier to explore right now but they also have lots of hidden state and obscure organization (good luck knowing which options interferes with who and where they are some times)
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#77You know, there's even a text mode display manager for X. I forget the name, but it's on GitHub.
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#78> Spreadsheets in the terminal: Totally doable.
I disagree. I find vim, mutt and pandoc superior to LO Writer and Thundrbird for text editing and emailing, but sc is just nowhere near LO Calc or even Gnumeric.
I really wish someone would make a text user interface for Gnumeric.
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
But if you had to do something now on some alien OS that you didn't know the internals of, wouldn't you prefer a GUI?
Contrary to everyone else here: hell yes, every single time. GUIs are discoverable, and have lower friction for first time users. Example : a video codec GUI will always be easier to use than ffmpeg. I still Google how to use ffmpeg after 10years , and I have to read the entire man page because I don’t know what I don’t know ! Is there a newer, better option to this flag available? Like lame for mp3s (another great e…
That is more a product of complexity thou.
The other day I was doing some basic data collection and graphing, with the initial version being done in Excel, for something as basic as adding a trendline I had to resort to googling the answer, and following a sequence of several click this, then click this style to get what I needed.
Turns out it was actually easier to understand how to do what I needed using python matplotlib (not a CLI program granted).
Design, documentation and managing complexity are far more important to discoverability than GUI vs CLI.
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Multiseat is a bit complex under X11, but certainly possible today. What do you see as the advantages of thin clients, though?
I think the point wasn't to specifically lament the lack of thin clients, but the lack of knowledge about how the systems are really designed be multi-user, and actually multi- concurrent -user, as opposed to systems like windows which eventually gained multi-user capabilities, and even then concurrent use isn't exactly the common case (and I'm not sure how well it works in practice, but I imagine with RDP it works w…
All of these tools and capabilities still exist; there's probably still some Unix beards hanging out on Nyx and SDF. Yet here we all are having a discussion on HN instead.