Live data from Hacker News

Tesla, software and disruption

ben-evans.com

11–20 of 127 posts

Re: Tesla, software and disruption

#12
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most tool brands (milwaukee, dewalt, ryobi) are transitioning from tool companies to battery companies. Lots of cheap tools and expensive batteries. Also, battery powered chainsaws (husqvarna is well regarded for their chainsaws): https://www.husqvarna.com/us/products/chainsaws/536li-xp/966... battery powered riding lawnmowers (ryobi not well known for ride-on mowers): https://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-38-in-75-Ah-Ba…

Battery powered chainsaws are definitely a thing and actually work pretty well, even on medium sized trees. Not needing hearing protection is a huge benefit in my opinion.

And DeWalt makes an excellent battery powered leaf blower.

Re: Tesla, software and disruption

#13
for anyone who maybe got confused SLAM stands for Simultaneous Localization and Mapping.

edit: I think if it is possible to do SLAM without LIDAR waymo will definitely beat TESLA to the punch since waymo has an absurd amount of vision data labelled with the lidar-measured-depth.

Re: Tesla, software and disruption

#14

it seems the article boils down to the autonomy puzzle in Tesla. Could Tesla make the autonomy a realization with their approach? would waymo approach be better in the future? One thing I think that is missing, although it mentioned people love their Tesla and so is other thing in life. It is the fact that I felt that this is derived from the way Tesla designed the car, it is intuitive just like when the first Iphone…

andrej karpathy is kinda pretty freaking legit but I think the waymo team is probably stronger/larger and has significantly more engineering maturity.

caveat: I don't do vision.

Re: Tesla, software and disruption

#15

it seems the article boils down to the autonomy puzzle in Tesla. Could Tesla make the autonomy a realization with their approach? would waymo approach be better in the future? One thing I think that is missing, although it mentioned people love their Tesla and so is other thing in life. It is the fact that I felt that this is derived from the way Tesla designed the car, it is intuitive just like when the first Iphone…

> It is the fact that I felt that this is derived from the way Tesla designed the car, it is intuitive just like when the first Iphone introduced.

I beg to differ. The iPhone was intuitive in that all the (built-in) apps were nicely laid out so you could easily interact with them while you are looking at the phone and giving it most of your attention. Kind of like a Tesla is nicely laid out so that you can mostly easily figure out how to, say, adjust the ventilation while looking at the big display and giving it a decent amount of attention.

This is far better than the car I grew up with that made you press the totally unintuitive recirculate button when you wanted recirculation.

To Tesla’s credit, their on/off/drive/reverse control is vastly superior to anyone else’s. Heck, several brands still screw up their “off” button badly enough that it kills people by CO poisoning.

Re: Tesla, software and disruption

#18
post #6

If batteries are getting so cheap why isn’t anyone making battery powered: chainsaws, full size vacuum cleaners, jet skis, ride on mowers? All of those would be revolutionary.

For me for a long time the example of tool that cannot be reasonably battery powered were angle grinders and SDS-mount hammer drills. DeWalt makes both of these for a few years.

Re: Tesla, software and disruption

#19
post #2

Excellent article with well-reasoned analysis of the range of future possibilities for Tesla. But one disappointing omission is any mention of ride-hailing - surely it will have enormous consequences for the entire auto industry because people will for the most part stop buying cars and switch to autonomous taxis. This will (a) reduce the demand for number of new cars produced; (b) reduce the profit from each car (no…

I suspect ride hailing, just like taxies, is only viable in large, extremely dense cities. Those are really rather rare in the US. I don't know that they will be any more disruptive than taxies in the US unless society changes.

Re: Tesla, software and disruption

#20
post #6

If batteries are getting so cheap why isn’t anyone making battery powered: chainsaws, full size vacuum cleaners, jet skis, ride on mowers? All of those would be revolutionary.

batteries are getting cheaper but good long term reliable batteries will still set you back a bit. I have had an electric mower, edger, and blower. I only kept the last item. The first just didn't last well enough even with a spare battery and it was already degrading before the end of the season. The edger just didn't cut it, sorry about the pun.

There are riding electric mowers but the cost keeps most off of them and honestly unless it has thermal management I am not soaking money into one.

If anything shows how far they need to go is motorcycles. Yeah there are a few decent ones out there but if you do highway speeds their mileage plummets.

and finally comes charging, it is silly enough with phone, table, head sets, and more. now I will need a garage full of at minimum 20a 240v plugs if not higher rated. homes just are not designed around that yet

Post reply on HN