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Eating in 10-hour window can override disease-causing genetic defects

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Re: Eating in 10-hour window can override disease-causing genetic defects

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Is it better to eat in the morning or night for humans?

Middle of the day for largest meal. Try to eat less before bed so liver can detox instead of digest food while u sleep. Also if your a man try working on peacock pose each morning 30 mins before eating (up to 5 mins) to boost digestion , if woman be careful when menstruating

Peacock pose is not exactly for the faint-hearted.

Re: Eating in 10-hour window can override disease-causing genetic defects

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Interesting how this time restricted eating seems to differ from perspectives in the intermittent fasting community. Intermittent Fasting folks tend to espouse avoiding caloric intake for long periods of time every day, but they're fine with black coffee/tea (since it doesn't trigger an insulin response). But here Dr. Panda seems to believe that even coffee would compromise the fasting window: https://youtu.be/iywhaz…

Definitely if you trigger insulin response it is safe to say you break a fast, but any caloric intake breaks the fast, even without insulin response.

I’m not sure that video supports your conclusion that coffee/tea breaks the fast, seems to me it’s more of a maybe.

I personally appreciated the acknowledgement of the microbiome. The idea that simply...we don’t know and don’t understand the interactions of the microbiome. The example given was artificial sweetener that most every Keto/paleo/low carb/IF advocate would say is ok...well no,it’s probably not because even with zero calorie and no insulin response the interaction with the microbiome likely breaks the fast and is an over all negative (unhealthy) interaction.

Re: Eating in 10-hour window can override disease-causing genetic defects

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Interesting how this time restricted eating seems to differ from perspectives in the intermittent fasting community. Intermittent Fasting folks tend to espouse avoiding caloric intake for long periods of time every day, but they're fine with black coffee/tea (since it doesn't trigger an insulin response). But here Dr. Panda seems to believe that even coffee would compromise the fasting window: https://youtu.be/iywhaz…

I just signed up and installed their iOS app. You are correct: drinking coffee or tea in the morning starts the non-fasting period. This will be rough for me because I usually have coffee at 5:30am, read or study for 90 minutes, then have breakfast and go to work. I will shift my morning coffee to when I have breakfast.

I have been non-fasting and fasting with an even split of 12 hours / 12 hours per day, so this will be an adjustment.

Re: Eating in 10-hour window can override disease-causing genetic defects

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Interesting how this time restricted eating seems to differ from perspectives in the intermittent fasting community. Intermittent Fasting folks tend to espouse avoiding caloric intake for long periods of time every day, but they're fine with black coffee/tea (since it doesn't trigger an insulin response). But here Dr. Panda seems to believe that even coffee would compromise the fasting window: https://youtu.be/iywhaz…

But 8am to 6pm would be a ten hour window. So you could have your coffee and a big breakfast.

That wouldn’t be so bad. It really just mirrors the advice our lacrosse coaches have been telling us all along. Don’t snack at night.

Re: Eating in 10-hour window can override disease-causing genetic defects

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Another major victory in mankind’s long quest to render mice immortal.

A witty quip, and I totally agree with the sentiment, but I'm wondering what other way we have to test hypotheses in vivo. Animal models are pretty key, but my knowledge of the field is incomplete.

Re: Eating in 10-hour window can override disease-causing genetic defects

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Another major victory in mankind’s long quest to render mice immortal.

A witty quip, and I totally agree with the sentiment, but I'm wondering what other way we have to test hypotheses in vivo . Animal models are pretty key, but my knowledge of the field is incomplete.

"I guess doing strange things to rodents and measuring the outcomes is useful, but going so far as to turn it into health advice for humans is absurd." 16 days ago I said that.

This one seems a little more legitimate and a target for further research.

Animal models are a start, but you shouldn't use them to give definitive advice or conclusions. The headline is " Eating in 10-hour window can override disease-causing genetic defects" and it is a deception. You are not a mouse, health advice for mice and health advice for humans surely overlaps but there are certainly very many differences.

You solve this by doing a human study. It is a lot harder.

Re: Eating in 10-hour window can override disease-causing genetic defects

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Interesting how this time restricted eating seems to differ from perspectives in the intermittent fasting community. Intermittent Fasting folks tend to espouse avoiding caloric intake for long periods of time every day, but they're fine with black coffee/tea (since it doesn't trigger an insulin response). But here Dr. Panda seems to believe that even coffee would compromise the fasting window: https://youtu.be/iywhaz…

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Re: Eating in 10-hour window can override disease-causing genetic defects

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Another major victory in mankind’s long quest to render mice immortal.

A witty quip, and I totally agree with the sentiment, but I'm wondering what other way we have to test hypotheses in vivo . Animal models are pretty key, but my knowledge of the field is incomplete.

If including even human testing in animals the furthest out theoretical way would be complete physical modeling. There would be so many issues involved there it isn't funny including building it from faulty assumptions. Even with sufficient processing power to completely model a human accurately from their DNA and wonder why the functions don't match up or show health problems - say because the communal bacteria weren't included or the physics model didn't include this one obscure molecular physics interaction we didn't even know existed before now.
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