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Re: Silicon Valley is changing, and its lead over other tech hubs narrowing

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Post by scarface74 » Fri, Aug 31, 2018, 10:22 PM UTC

NTDF9 wrote: post #119

scarface74 wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Americans can be found. But obviously if your company can’t find any, then the compensation you offer isn’t competitive and Americans have better opportunities elsewhere.

> Americans can be found. But obviously if your company can’t find any, then the compensation you offer isn’t competitive and Americans have better opportunities elsewhere. So you have better opportunities elsewhere. Whats your problem with me hiring legal taxpaying smart international people? Do you want to kill my razor thin business causing layoffs? Do you want me to move to another country? Do you not want smart…

I placed no value judgement on your hiring people internationally and making the best decision for your business and doing what was in your best interest.

On the other hand, the original post did imply that there was something morally wrong with employees not being “loyal” and jumping ship to a better offer or not accepting your offer at all because it was in their best interest.

But at the end of the day, it is your business not mine. That informs where both of our loyalties will lie.

Re: Silicon Valley is changing, and its lead over other tech hubs narrowing

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Post by RestlessMind » Sat, Sep 01, 2018, 12:19 AM UTC

> some think a recession might clear out some badly run companies and lower costs for the fitter survivors.

I hope it doesn't strengthen AAGMF further by making acquisitions cheaper.

Re: Silicon Valley is changing, and its lead over other tech hubs narrowing

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Post by puranjay » Sat, Sep 01, 2018, 1:36 AM UTC

frockington wrote: post #46

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #27

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As a potential legal immigrant, I just don't want to take my labor to a country whose President doesn't respect or welcome me. Sure, the rhetoric might be against illegal immigration, but I'd rather just move to a country where Nazis aren't "fine people". The America brand has essentially been tainted.

I don't understand this logic. You want to move to America, but you hate America. Why not just move elsewhere then? Is there something that America has that you can't find anywhere else?

That's exactly what I meant: that I'd just take my labor elsewhere. I have no intention of immigrating to America in the near future; it will take someone like Obama in power again for me to think otherwise. There are other labor markets that are happy to put out the welcome mat for me

The sad thing is that I studied in America for two years and can't reconcile the current rhetoric with the memories I had

Re: Silicon Valley is changing, and its lead over other tech hubs narrowing

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Post by sanderjd » Sat, Sep 01, 2018, 3:01 AM UTC

fnbr wrote: post #95

philipodonnell wrote: post #76

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I expect it is also at least four times easier to raise capital in the Bay Area as it would in most other cities in America. These things have a way of evening out.

I would honestly expect it to be more than 10x easier. In Canada, the idea of raising a 2-3 million round is completely foreign, and in my city (Edmonton) the idea is absurd. I strongly suspect you could raise 10x more much easier in the Bay compared to Edmonton, making it worth it to have an office down there, even though the cost of SWEs is ~4x cheaper here.

Honest question from a place of ignorance: why do you need an office there, rather than just extended stays in hotels and some rented conference space?

Re: Silicon Valley is changing, and its lead over other tech hubs narrowing

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Post by fnbr » Tue, Sep 04, 2018, 3:52 PM UTC

sanderjd wrote: post #124

fnbr wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would honestly expect it to be more than 10x easier. In Canada, the idea of raising a 2-3 million round is completely foreign, and in my city (Edmonton) the idea is absurd. I strongly suspect you could raise 10x more much easier in the Bay compared to Edmonton, making it worth it to have an office down there, even though the cost of SWEs is ~4x cheaper here.

Honest question from a place of ignorance: why do you need an office there, rather than just extended stays in hotels and some rented conference space?

A lot of investors won't invest in companies that don't have large offices in the Bay. Investors also generally advise against having remote offices when you have less than 100 people. As a result, there's not really any reason that startups need offices there other than that it can be difficult to get investment if you're based elsewhere.

EDIT: I shouldn't say "the Bay", but rather, "the Bay/LA/NYC/Seattle". I more mean "top tier startups cities" rather than strictly just the Bay, per se.