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Chief U.S. spy catcher says China using LinkedIn to recruit Americans

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Re: Chief U.S. spy catcher says China using LinkedIn to recruit Americans

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Post by weliketocode »

faitswulff wrote: post #4

I found it interesting that the espionage is largely aimed at the private sector and not the government: > About 70 percent of China’s overall espionage is aimed at the U.S. private sector, rather than the government, said Joshua Skule, the head of the FBI’s intelligence division, which is charged with countering foreign espionage in the United States. > “They are conducting economic espionage at a rate that is unpar…

Interesting talking point, but they must be lumping a number of companies with government contracts into the private sector as well.

Still, curious to see some sort of hierarchy around motivations/emphasis for:

- top secret private info (defense or otherwise)

- regular private sector info

- public sector info related to government contracts

- public sector info related to IP or tech

- public or private sector info on important people

Re: Chief U.S. spy catcher says China using LinkedIn to recruit Americans

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Post by swaggyBoatswain »

toast_coder wrote: post #13
monocasa wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? That's the proven strategy to leapfrog yourself into a developed economy. It's what the US, Germany, and Japan all did.

The US, Germany, and Japan are all technology leaders. None of those nations leapfrogged into a developed nation by copying others.

uh...

Japan was practically given a lot of American Technology right after WWII under Robert Demings. In fact, Toyota is partially the way it is today, thanks to the Ford Assembly Line, but they still paved there own means of success.

Germany arguably the same as well, around the same time frame. Can't recall the exact history of what US gave to Germany though, but it was most likely part of the Marshall Plan.

US is copying a lot of methodologies and philosophies from Japan. Any deriative of the Toyota way is in many management philosophies, from scrum, agile development, etc. Germany, much technology is still being shared between both our countries today. Japan is copying a lot of software innovations from America, and vice versa.

Re: Chief U.S. spy catcher says China using LinkedIn to recruit Americans

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Post by scottlegrand2 »

x3n0ph3n3 wrote: post #41
nostromo wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We can inoculate ourselves to this threat by not caring about what politicians, government workers, and other people in general do in their private romantic lives.

Well, a think a spouse might justifiably care in the case of cheating.

At which point that's just the cycle of karma closing the loop, no?

Re: Chief U.S. spy catcher says China using LinkedIn to recruit Americans

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Post by aurailious »

faitswulff wrote: post #4

I found it interesting that the espionage is largely aimed at the private sector and not the government: > About 70 percent of China’s overall espionage is aimed at the U.S. private sector, rather than the government, said Joshua Skule, the head of the FBI’s intelligence division, which is charged with countering foreign espionage in the United States. > “They are conducting economic espionage at a rate that is unpar…

Because private sector is incredibly easy to steal from. At least the government actually cares about it.

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Post by projectramo »

saagarjha wrote: post #59
projectramo wrote: post #45

New jobs program: you pretend to have all kinds of heavy duty intel, let the Chinese government hire you and then milk the new position for all it is worth. Could be a thriller, but I would pitch this one as a comedy.

Sounds like a great way to get on the bad side of both the Chinese and American governments. Plus you're in a foreign country with fewer people to watch out for you.

I have one word for you: telecommuting!

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Post by mistermann »

nostromo wrote: post #30
dfsegoat wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Think of a scenario where certain government employees have accounts on some Private sector service: Maybe a Grindr or Tinder -- if they can work to obtain any sort of compromising information from those services - they can then use it to manipulate government employees ("Do what I say, or i'll out you")... In fact, pretty sure a Chinese co. recently obtained controlling interest of Grindr. https://www.nytimes.com/20…

We can inoculate ourselves to this threat by not caring about what politicians, government workers, and other people in general do in their private romantic lives.

I don't think the general public can.

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Post by stephengillie »

godzillabrennus wrote: post #46
projectramo wrote: post #45

New jobs program: you pretend to have all kinds of heavy duty intel, let the Chinese government hire you and then milk the new position for all it is worth. Could be a thriller, but I would pitch this one as a comedy.

All you need to make it happen is Seth Rogen and Roger Stone to collaborate.

Or Ben Affleck, Bryan Cranston, & John Goodman.

Re: Chief U.S. spy catcher says China using LinkedIn to recruit Americans

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Post by stephengillie »

e40 wrote: post #21

There are so many unintended consequences of the internet as we know it today. This, fake news, forums that close because their moderators don't want to cope with the terrible stuff, and on and on. When it was just computer science departments and a few tech companies, it was mostly OK. With a good portion of humanity online... wow.

The more things change, the more they stay the same. It starts to feel 1984-esque when you see these same opinions from 100 years ago or more.

Re: Chief U.S. spy catcher says China using LinkedIn to recruit Americans

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

aurailious wrote: post #65
faitswulff wrote: post #4

I found it interesting that the espionage is largely aimed at the private sector and not the government: > About 70 percent of China’s overall espionage is aimed at the U.S. private sector, rather than the government, said Joshua Skule, the head of the FBI’s intelligence division, which is charged with countering foreign espionage in the United States. > “They are conducting economic espionage at a rate that is unpar…

Because private sector is incredibly easy to steal from. At least the government actually cares about it.

> At least the government actually cares about it.

Unless you're OPM and you can't be bothered to follow NSA guidelines. Or you're the military and think having sensitive documents on a loosely secured SharePoint server is a great idea.

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