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Lenovo’s new Yoga Book replaces the keyboard with an E Ink screen

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Re: Lenovo’s new Yoga Book replaces the keyboard with an E Ink screen

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Post by ianamartin »

laurentMiguel wrote: post #75
have_faith wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always turn on 'tap to click' on my trackpad so you can tap anywhere to click, and two finger tap to right click. I haven't missed physical buttons since getting used to this. Is there a particular use case that the physical buttons are better for? I can imagine gaming at least.

Is there a particular use case that the physical buttons are better for? EVERYTHING. Every time I need to create a new folder. Every time I need to copy and paste. Every time I need to see additional information about a file. Every time I need to inspect an element on a web page. Every time I need to move something off my desktop. Every time I want to open in a new window. Every time I want to do ANYTHING involving a…

You right click to copy/paste? And you complain that trackpads with gestures are unacceptable and inefficient.

I don’t know if I can process that.

Re: Lenovo’s new Yoga Book replaces the keyboard with an E Ink screen

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Post by afandian »

I have a first generation one of these. I find the 'halo keyboard' very difficult to type on (then again, I find touchscreen keyboards very difficult to type on).

You can manage a few words touch-typing but then things start drifting because there's no tactile feedback. And unlike an on-screen keyboard, you're not looking directly at it; that's the point of having a separate keyboard. I end up making mistakes even hunting-and-pecking.

I used the pen digitiser for a few minutes then concluded that it has no practical use. The included drawing app was useless for anything but doodling. It was fun to use it as a pointing device in Android, but only fun, not useful.

So I just use it as a tablet with a kick-stand, which is handy but doesn't play to the USP.

But let's face it, a second epaper screen is cool.

Re: Lenovo’s new Yoga Book replaces the keyboard with an E Ink screen

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Post by ianamartin »

eknkc wrote: post #23
madmulita wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've found trying to drag&drop with that method infuriating.

Activate 3 finger dragging in Accessibility settings. I use tap to click, two finger for right click and 3 finger for drag. Works great. I guess I never actually click the trackpad with these settings.

Absolutely this. It is hands down the best possible set up for a trackpad. I like this so much that I actually bought a Magic Trackpad so I can do these things when I’m plugged in to my main desk setup.

I never use the Magic Trackpad though. It’s the best solution if you have to use a trackpad. A real mouse is still just plain better.

Re: Lenovo’s new Yoga Book replaces the keyboard with an E Ink screen

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Post by FullyFunctional »

_carl_jung wrote: post #2

I'd like to see a laptop with an e-ink display I can code on. That way I can go and sit in the sun.

I came here to say the same thing. I might have to make it myself which is looking increasingly possible. Useful displays aren't even that expensive, a 13.3" 1600x1200 display _module_ (not including driver) is $450, making a mechanical keyboard is easy, SBCs like the ODROID XU4 are plenty fast. Just a small matter of finding a few months of spare time /s

Re: Lenovo’s new Yoga Book replaces the keyboard with an E Ink screen

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Post by FullyFunctional »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #58
robin_reala wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was always the promise of Pixel Qi screens. Shame they never hit critical mass. There are eink standalone monitors (e.g. http://dasungtech.com/ ) but nothing in a laptop form factor that I’m aware of.

I really want some e-ink screen setup for a RPi but not sure how it will work.

You can get off the shelf for that easily, but the large modules are $450+$350 (https://shopkits.eink.com/product/concerto-driving-board) and not ideal for a mobile application.

Re: Lenovo’s new Yoga Book replaces the keyboard with an E Ink screen

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Post by ilaksh »

afandian wrote: post #92

I have a first generation one of these. I find the 'halo keyboard' very difficult to type on (then again, I find touchscreen keyboards very difficult to type on). You can manage a few words touch-typing but then things start drifting because there's no tactile feedback. And unlike an on-screen keyboard, you're not looking directly at it; that's the point of having a separate keyboard. I end up making mistakes even hu…

The new version has haptic feedback.

Re: Lenovo’s new Yoga Book replaces the keyboard with an E Ink screen

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Post by FullyFunctional »

simias wrote: post #35
_carl_jung wrote: post #2

I'd like to see a laptop with an e-ink display I can code on. That way I can go and sit in the sun.

My only personal experience with e-ink displays is from my almost decade old Kindle and that was way too slow to be usable interactively for anything complex. Has the state of the art improved to the point that coding on a e-ink display is viable? What about color? Regarding TFA typing on a flat surface sounds painful, at this point you effectively have a tablet-style keyboard. That being said I'm a keyboard snob who…

My Kindle Voyage has an amazing display and refreshes plenty fast (you can see the partial updates when moving the screen brightness setting up and down quickly). The only problem with it is that the screen is too small (physically). The same quality at 13+" would work great for Emacs + pdf reading.

Re: Lenovo’s new Yoga Book replaces the keyboard with an E Ink screen

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Post by FullyFunctional »

siruncledrew wrote: post #85
intopieces wrote: post #84

I am not a windows fan. Any guesses on Linux support? I’m guess none at all.

There's a subsystem option for Linux on Windows 10: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install-win10

That is not the same thing and not something I'm interested in.

Re: Lenovo’s new Yoga Book replaces the keyboard with an E Ink screen

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Post by radus »

devmunchies wrote: post #99
_carl_jung wrote: post #2

I'd like to see a laptop with an e-ink display I can code on. That way I can go and sit in the sun.

Would you be losing syntax highlighting though?

> Would you be losing syntax highlighting though?

Grayscale, italics, bold

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