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Lenovo’s new Yoga Book replaces the keyboard with an E Ink screen

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How is anyone supposed to type on something like that?

I would prefer a mechanical or classical keyboard with e-ink key-caps top.

Not e-ink, but something very similar to that was a thing about a decade ago. To say it wasn't a runaway success might be putting it lightly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimus_Maximus_keyboard

Re: Lenovo’s new Yoga Book replaces the keyboard with an E Ink screen

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E-ink displays are awesome and Lenovo never stops innovating. I am bit skeptical about the keyboard feel though. I really hope that they will take in consideration a double screen for phones too, something like the YotaPhone.

I loved the idea of the yotaphone and bought the second version (using it to write this) but it's actually the worst phone I've ever owned by a wide margin. The hardware quality is not great and it's stuck on a very old version of Android. The eink display is neat and great for navigation especially, handy for visual notifications on a desk, but otherwise not as useful or as cool as I expected. I kind of regretted bu…

I'd buy something similar to YotaPhone, but: - Updates - Active mod community, when updates stop (this happens too soon nowadays and Yota is an example) - Bigger screen, something close to 6 inch.

I'd buy it because I would find it perfect for reading, and I just love the feel, but guess it really depends.

Re: Lenovo’s new Yoga Book replaces the keyboard with an E Ink screen

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How is anyone supposed to type on something like that?

I have the first generation Lenovo Yoga Book. It's actually okay to type on. I'm not the best typer, but I have some decent muscle memory and my typing on that thing is about 95% accurate (one typo about every third word). It's good enough that I can correct any typos later and not take away from the other benefits of the design. I feel that I lose that accuracy because the "keyboard" is smaller than what I'm usee to.

I turned off the haptic feedback on mine as it's too distracting and to save battery. (The battery last a long time on it - about 8 hours watching movies on 50% brightness in airplane mode. Over 14 hours reading PDFs.)

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Bought the last generation of this on a whim, used it maybe an hour since then. Nothing about this is convenient except if your workflow involves you constantly changing keyboard layout for some reason. A lot of products like this one already exist and do things better, MS Surface, iPad Pro etc. I don't really understand what niche this fits in except for impulse buyers like myself. edit: also on last gen there was n…

I have a first generation Lenovo Yoga Book too. I mainly purchased it on a whim too - thought I would use it for some specific purpuse, but never did.

However I've used it quite a bit since then for other things, mostly taking notes, watching videos, and reading PDFs when traveling.

My biggest complaint with the 1st gen was the single microUSB port, this new one looks like it has two USB C ports, that and better tech specs might make it worth getting.

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Exactly what I was thinking when I saw this. I just want to attach a tmux/vi session to that EINK panel, I'll even bring my own wireless keyboard.

Same here. I’m sure plenty want that, but apparently not enough.

Yep, same here. E-ink screen and keyboard is all I need; I'd be totally fine with black&white, I'd just switch Emacs to monochrome coloring (using different fonts and bolds/italics/underlines instead of regular syntax coloring).

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E-ink displays are awesome and Lenovo never stops innovating. I am bit skeptical about the keyboard feel though. I really hope that they will take in consideration a double screen for phones too, something like the YotaPhone.

if the keyboard has similar characteristics to the android yogabook, then I'm skeptical as well. I have one, and while the device itself is pretty darned neat, the keyboard leaves a lot to be desired. the haptic feedback helps some, but the keys often don't register.

the hardware itself is pretty nice, though.

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On most devices tap-to-click is on by default. It’s always the first thing I turn off. I have always found it completely useless and it turns incidental touches into accidental clicks. “Oops, guess I sent that email.” This isn’t relevant to the parent’s complaint, though. Without dedicated buttons, you’re relying on the driver to distinguish between a one and two finger click. That detection, even on Apple devices, i…

Man I really disagree about Apple's new trackpads. I feel very uneasy using them. It's almost an "uncanny valley" type feeling.

I didn’t love the massive size of the new trackpads but it took me all of 5 minutes to adapt to the click. Happy to trade off a real click for click-anywhere behavior (and potentially better durability). Although I found the trackpad didn’t actually click well along the right edge. No idea what that was about.

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Who cares. Bringing experiments all the way to market is a good thing, just don't buy one and you are sorted.

bringing experiments all the way to market is really only good if anyone cares to try them out. if no one cares to try them then that experiment has failed in the market.

Bringing experiments all the way to market is a good way of wasting lots of precious natural resources. The more you can test a design before it hits Chinese megafactories and worldwide distribution centers, the better for the planet.
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