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Re: NYC Mesh – community-owned network to replace your current internet connection

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Post by fivefive55 » Thu, Aug 30, 2018, 5:43 PM UTC

komali2 wrote: post #17

markn951 wrote: post #3

Stuff like this make me long to live in NYC. Only city in the US with the density, technical expertise, and money for this kind of thing to happen.

I thought the same was true for the Bay Area, hence why I moved here. I was genuinely surprised to find Google Fiber isn't even available, let alone any mesh networks. In all other aspects of technical expertise though it's blowing my previous city, Houston, away. Companies open to candidates based on technical expertise alone (rather than throwing non-B.S. degrees straight into the garbage), lots of great meetups, l…

I live less than 10 minutes from the Google complex and google fiber isn't an option. It's really sad.

Re: NYC Mesh – community-owned network to replace your current internet connection

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Post by fivefive55 » Thu, Aug 30, 2018, 9:01 PM UTC

komali2 wrote: post #14

nategri wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having two choices actually might put you well above average for the US. Back when I was in Mountain View, CA (a few miles from Google HQ) it was either Comcast or nothing and the irony was not lost on me.

AT&T had an offering when I lived in Mountain View that was so comically terrible as to not realistically be an option at all.

This is still true as of last year. Comcast was the only viable option.

Re: NYC Mesh – community-owned network to replace your current internet connection

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Post by ucaetano » Thu, Aug 30, 2018, 11:09 PM UTC

amazon_not wrote: post #168

fixthenet wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Great tech questions. Right now, in our beta/test network, we're receiving DIA service to a remote server location and that's it. No peering, no CDNs. Our next steps are to increase the bandwidth of our DIA, since that's more cost effective at our current scale than we'd benefit by peering. The step after that is to swap that DIA for transport and then colocate in DTLA to find peers. CDN caches often require a minimu…

A Netflix cache appliance isn't dependent on the number of customers, it's on dependent on the amount of traffic from Netflix. You don't need 5000 Netflix customers, you need 5 Gbps of peak traffic to qualify. However that isn't your only option. You can just peer with Netflix, they have an open peering policy.

The issue with peering with Netflix is that Netflix only peers in certain locations, so you need to buy transport to the exchange where Netflix is present.

Re: NYC Mesh – community-owned network to replace your current internet connection

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Post by zamadatix » Fri, Aug 31, 2018, 3:29 PM UTC

hyperpallium wrote: post #76

What about a mesh that is not connected to the internet? These days, people use the internet like TV or radio: many consume, few produce. What about a " community " mesh, where e.g. a small town has websites, email, webservices, gaming hosts etc for shops, businesses, sporting, clubs, council, local news and social media for that town?

For the same reason communities don't build a second road system not connected to the main road system. Why would I want to build a system that makes it so I can't check websites, email, webservices, gaming hosts, businesses, clubs, council, local news, and social media just because I'm in the next town over during work?

Also if you really wanted to only have services available locally why not just do that via access control policy instead of building a second infrastructure?