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Lenovo’s new Yoga Book replaces the keyboard with an E Ink screen

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I wonder if this is where Apple are going to end up with their touch bar. At least you won't need to worry about dust killing your keyboard.

Hah yea. Pressure sensitivity and haptic feedback on the touchbar to reduce accidental button presses would go a long way for me.

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Activate 3 finger dragging in Accessibility settings. I use tap to click, two finger for right click and 3 finger for drag. Works great. I guess I never actually click the trackpad with these settings.

This is by far the best setup for the trackpad. Ever since discovering 3-finger drag, I can't live without it. I don't understand why not everyone uses it, and why Apple decided to move it from the main settings screen to the accessibility settings.

It's a bit non-discoverable. I think that is why.

Agree though, I'd get crazy without it.

(The behaviour of the touch, not the placement in the settings.)

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How is anyone supposed to type on something like that?

The video showing the guy typing and the sound of the haptic feedback gives you a good idea of what it feels like. Watching it I can see how it might work well. I am sure it would take some getting used to. I can also see how some people's initial reaction might be similar to the reaction a lot of people had to the original iPhone. Of course now most people are very comfortable typing on a touchscreen phone keyboard.

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It's probably not very bad, but stupid experiments can have a negative influence on the community as a whole. Let's say e-ink keyboards are a good idea, but it's too soon. An early implementation will quite possibly delay (more make completely unviable) trying the experiment again. If it's just a bad idea, resources will have been diverted into the development of a failed product (which is years of someones life spen…

This presumes we can choose the right path without mistakes. It's a silly presumption. And I think it's fine to be frustrated with stupid VC spending, but to the extent it is actually a problem, it shouldn't be sustainable (it would be replaced by less stupid spending if it were truly enjoining advancement).

I agree, we can't proceed without mistakes. But it's incorrect to say that there is no cost, and that we shouldn't minimise mistakes (which is what the comment I was replying to was implying).

The VC stuff... I'm not sure that it's not sustainable. The way VCs are selected is not totally efficient (I would say, not even very efficient). More than that, successful exits for VCs don't always mean that a product or service provided value to the world at large (or was a good use for limited engineering talent), there are lots of ways for a VC to get a successful exit without that happening (including a follow on investing giving them liquidity, before there is even a product on the market for example, or the company being acquired without having developed anything useful).

Re: Lenovo’s new Yoga Book replaces the keyboard with an E Ink screen

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I'm still consistently enraged at trackpads without physically distinct left and right buttons. No one does them right. Not even Apple.

I always turn on 'tap to click' on my trackpad so you can tap anywhere to click, and two finger tap to right click. I haven't missed physical buttons since getting used to this. Is there a particular use case that the physical buttons are better for? I can imagine gaming at least.

I previously turned that feature off because it was terribly innacurate. Dell XPS is the first model that managed to get it right.

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#47

I'd like to see a laptop with an e-ink display I can code on. That way I can go and sit in the sun.

I want an e-ink display on which I can read scientific papers. Sadly, this isn't possible unless the whole paper fits on the screen, because scrolling on e-ink quickly becomes a real chore due to the refresh rate.

Re: Lenovo’s new Yoga Book replaces the keyboard with an E Ink screen

#48

I wonder if this is where Apple are going to end up with their touch bar. At least you won't need to worry about dust killing your keyboard.

Hah yea. Pressure sensitivity and haptic feedback on the touchbar to reduce accidental button presses would go a long way for me.

They already have haptic feedback on their trackpad, which is non mechanical. Merging the touchbar and trackpad would make a lot of sense; it's a lot of real estate to waste. Oled is the way to go here though. That's what they did with the touchbar.

Re: Lenovo’s new Yoga Book replaces the keyboard with an E Ink screen

#49

I'm still consistently enraged at trackpads without physically distinct left and right buttons. No one does them right. Not even Apple.

I always turn on 'tap to click' on my trackpad so you can tap anywhere to click, and two finger tap to right click. I haven't missed physical buttons since getting used to this. Is there a particular use case that the physical buttons are better for? I can imagine gaming at least.

On MacOs, it's not possible to tun off the tap-to-drag release delay. So you may often end up dragging stuff around even after you think you're done dragging. The physical button helps ensure you get it right when you really need to (so the use case for the physical button is a workaround for the wonky software).

Re: Lenovo’s new Yoga Book replaces the keyboard with an E Ink screen

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I'd like to see a laptop with an e-ink display I can code on. That way I can go and sit in the sun.

Exactly what I was thinking when I saw this. I just want to attach a tmux/vi session to that EINK panel, I'll even bring my own wireless keyboard.
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