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Silicon Valley is changing, and its lead over other tech hubs narrowing

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Re: Silicon Valley is changing, and its lead over other tech hubs narrowing

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And crazy immigration laws and policies aren’t helping much either. IMO it makes sense people are staying home and building their businesses instead of uprooting to a place they perceive doesn’t want them, both from an immigration and a housing cost perspective. This is the real cost of current rhetoric and discourse, and it takes time to manifest, but the change is happening. Many of my friends recently moved out of the Bay Area and back to their countries of origin instead of pursuing a green card, and I’m on the fence myself, for exactly these reasons. These are successful, connected people who’ve seen exits too. I believe those who would be successful in SV can be successful anywhere.

Re: Silicon Valley is changing, and its lead over other tech hubs narrowing

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And crazy immigration laws and policies aren’t helping much either. IMO it makes sense people are staying home and building their businesses instead of uprooting to a place they perceive doesn’t want them, both from an immigration and a housing cost perspective. This is the real cost of current rhetoric and discourse, and it takes time to manifest, but the change is happening. Many of my friends recently moved out of…

....that's what the article mentioned too...

Re: Silicon Valley is changing, and its lead over other tech hubs narrowing

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And to think that so much of the technology that makes this possible comes from the Valley itself!

As a US citizen, the idea of being able to work anywhere is appealing. If your infra is everywhere, then I guess you could be anywhere too.

That's the dream, right?

Re: Silicon Valley is changing, and its lead over other tech hubs narrowing

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And crazy immigration laws and policies aren’t helping much either. IMO it makes sense people are staying home and building their businesses instead of uprooting to a place they perceive doesn’t want them, both from an immigration and a housing cost perspective. This is the real cost of current rhetoric and discourse, and it takes time to manifest, but the change is happening. Many of my friends recently moved out of…

I’m confused. There is almost no rhetoric against legal and/or qualified immigration, just the illegal kind.

Re: Silicon Valley is changing, and its lead over other tech hubs narrowing

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And crazy immigration laws and policies aren’t helping much either. IMO it makes sense people are staying home and building their businesses instead of uprooting to a place they perceive doesn’t want them, both from an immigration and a housing cost perspective. This is the real cost of current rhetoric and discourse, and it takes time to manifest, but the change is happening. Many of my friends recently moved out of…

I’m confused. There is almost no rhetoric against legal and/or qualified immigration, just the illegal kind.

You have no idea how this administration is systematically pushing family oriented tech people away by creating gridlocks in the legal immigration process.

Re: Silicon Valley is changing, and its lead over other tech hubs narrowing

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And crazy immigration laws and policies aren’t helping much either. IMO it makes sense people are staying home and building their businesses instead of uprooting to a place they perceive doesn’t want them, both from an immigration and a housing cost perspective. This is the real cost of current rhetoric and discourse, and it takes time to manifest, but the change is happening. Many of my friends recently moved out of…

I’m confused. There is almost no rhetoric against legal and/or qualified immigration, just the illegal kind.

You're kidding? There is more and more rhetoric being spewed relating to the legal kind as well. There is even policy being enacted to drastically cut down or make it very hard to gain legal status by burying you with paperwork.

Beyond immigration talk, the constant spewing of racism coming from the administrations is a clear signal that immigrants of different backgrounds are not wanted.

To that end, they simply pack up and build their business and wealth elsewhere. We won't feel those effects right now but it will hit hard in a few years.

Re: Silicon Valley is changing, and its lead over other tech hubs narrowing

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And crazy immigration laws and policies aren’t helping much either. IMO it makes sense people are staying home and building their businesses instead of uprooting to a place they perceive doesn’t want them, both from an immigration and a housing cost perspective. This is the real cost of current rhetoric and discourse, and it takes time to manifest, but the change is happening. Many of my friends recently moved out of…

I’m confused. There is almost no rhetoric against legal and/or qualified immigration, just the illegal kind.

A few examples.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13769

https://www.theverge.com/2016/11/16/13653490/steve-bannon-tr...

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/28/tech-companies-h4-holders-br...

https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/02/20/h-1b-visas-how-the-tr...

Re: Silicon Valley is changing, and its lead over other tech hubs narrowing

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And crazy immigration laws and policies aren’t helping much either. IMO it makes sense people are staying home and building their businesses instead of uprooting to a place they perceive doesn’t want them, both from an immigration and a housing cost perspective. This is the real cost of current rhetoric and discourse, and it takes time to manifest, but the change is happening. Many of my friends recently moved out of…

I’m confused. There is almost no rhetoric against legal and/or qualified immigration, just the illegal kind.

"Legal" immigrants face a rising endless treadmill of demand for proof, and can be made illegal by the stroke of a pen with no recourse.

Re: Silicon Valley is changing, and its lead over other tech hubs narrowing

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m confused. There is almost no rhetoric against legal and/or qualified immigration, just the illegal kind.

You're kidding? There is more and more rhetoric being spewed relating to the legal kind as well. There is even policy being enacted to drastically cut down or make it very hard to gain legal status by burying you with paperwork. Beyond immigration talk, the constant spewing of racism coming from the administrations is a clear signal that immigrants of different backgrounds are not wanted. To that end, they simply pac…

> Beyond immigration talk, the constant spewing...

Curious to see some examples cited.

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