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Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Post by pornel »

randallsquared wrote: post #30
cletus wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I must admit, one thing I've become absolutely dependent on in Windows 7 is when you press Start you can do a quick lookup of the program you're after by typing a few characters. Sure OSX has the Finder and Spotlight but it's not quite as quick and convenient, in my experience. But my big request is this: implement the TRIM command in the OS to open up the SSD choices. This is long overdue.

According to http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/apple/2010/07/01/mac-ssd-pe... : "We started off this article making it intentionally limited in scope as we weren't expecting, in a OS that doesn't support TRIM, to find anything all that interesting. What we found was the exact opposite: an OS that doesn't appear to be affected by SSD performance degradation [...]"

They've only benchmarked 3 systems that don't support TRIM. That doesn't seem like a good way to prove that TRIM won't improve performance.

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Post by Timothee »

mortenjorck wrote: post #39

In 2009, Apple added a video camera to the otherwise perfected iPod Nano. It was a sign: While one might have had to be quite prescient to imagine exactly what would come after it, it was obvious that Apple felt it had reached the end of what could be innovated with that form factor. The 2010 reinvention of the Nano was the only logical next step, at least for Apple. In 2009, Apple released Snow Leopard, whose emphas…

I have a suspicion that among other things, 10.7 will introduce some new conventions to the basic problems of window management (though I might be a little biased).

For anyone not sure why mortenjock is biased, I recommend viewing his concept video 10GUI http://10gui.com/video/

The recent Magic Trackpad would tend to support your ideas here.

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Post by jasonlotito »

dolinsky wrote: post #47
jasonlotito wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In reverse: Oh, I like my Macs. I like the environment. However, it's not all roses and unicorn kisses as some make it out to be. The problem is when you want to do something remotely outside the default. Like, for instance, if you plug in your iPhone and you don't want iPhoto starting up and stealing focus, then it's a headache. Smart defaults work best, defaults that don't interrupt your workflow. Look at TimeMachi…

Like, for instance, if you plug in your iPhone and you don't want iPhoto starting up and stealing focus, then it's a headache. Go into Image Capture and change the preference to not start iPhoto when it is connected. The reason it does this by default is b/c your iPhone has a camera so everytime you connect your iPhone the 'smart default' is 'hey there are pictures, let's suck 'em down 'n back 'em up!'.

I know how to do it now. =) I set it to auto-import and it does it without loading up iPhoto. I also realize why it does this. The problem is iPhoto does this, but their is no obvious connection for going into Image Capture from iPhoto to change this feature.

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Post by wmf »

randallsquared wrote: post #30
cletus wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I must admit, one thing I've become absolutely dependent on in Windows 7 is when you press Start you can do a quick lookup of the program you're after by typing a few characters. Sure OSX has the Finder and Spotlight but it's not quite as quick and convenient, in my experience. But my big request is this: implement the TRIM command in the OS to open up the SSD choices. This is long overdue.

According to http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/apple/2010/07/01/mac-ssd-pe... : "We started off this article making it intentionally limited in scope as we weren't expecting, in a OS that doesn't support TRIM, to find anything all that interesting. What we found was the exact opposite: an OS that doesn't appear to be affected by SSD performance degradation [...]"

an OS that doesn't appear to be affected by SSD performance degradation

That may be true, but there isn't enough information in that article to tell. I think their other theory — that the Samsung SSD is essentially pre-degraded — is more likely to be correct.

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Post by dolinsky »

cletus wrote: post #21
_b8r0 wrote: post #5

Given that OSX has got to a fairly stable point, what would you want to see in a new version of OSX that would make you want to upgrade?

I must admit, one thing I've become absolutely dependent on in Windows 7 is when you press Start you can do a quick lookup of the program you're after by typing a few characters. Sure OSX has the Finder and Spotlight but it's not quite as quick and convenient, in my experience. But my big request is this: implement the TRIM command in the OS to open up the SSD choices. This is long overdue.

There is nothing quicker than Quicksilver http://blacktree.com/?quicksilver, which the developer of has now continued work at Google with Quick Search Box http://www.google.com/quicksearchbox/ .

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Post by kenjackson »

steveklabnik wrote: post #38
cletus wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I must admit, one thing I've become absolutely dependent on in Windows 7 is when you press Start you can do a quick lookup of the program you're after by typing a few characters. Sure OSX has the Finder and Spotlight but it's not quite as quick and convenient, in my experience. But my big request is this: implement the TRIM command in the OS to open up the SSD choices. This is long overdue.

> not as quick and convenient Do you press ⌘-Space to open Spotlight? I'm not sure how it can get more convenient...

Well on Windows 7 it is just one button (the Windows button), so I guess the Spotlight equivalent is twice as inconvenient. ;-)

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Post by mortenjorck »

_b8r0 wrote: post #5

Given that OSX has got to a fairly stable point, what would you want to see in a new version of OSX that would make you want to upgrade?

It's time to break up iTunes.

Like a bank that has become too big to fail, iTunes has become this massive hub that manages everything from audio and video syncing to mobile file and app management. Mobile device interaction not relating to multimedia needs to be offloaded to a renovated iSync, or better yet, Finder needs to be updated to integrate the iOS anti-filesystem. Photos, apps, app files -- all hierarchically listed with MacFUSE-like simplicity, but probably with a more context-appropriate UI than the standard Finder view.

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Post by blehn »

mortenjorck wrote: post #39

In 2009, Apple added a video camera to the otherwise perfected iPod Nano. It was a sign: While one might have had to be quite prescient to imagine exactly what would come after it, it was obvious that Apple felt it had reached the end of what could be innovated with that form factor. The 2010 reinvention of the Nano was the only logical next step, at least for Apple. In 2009, Apple released Snow Leopard, whose emphas…

Out of curiosity, how do you think you'd react if Apple implemented something that closely resembled 10/GUI? Do you have any patents for it?

Didn't they interview you for a job at one point? Did they indicate if they were experimenting with new desktop UI frameworks?

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Post by pkaler »

_b8r0 wrote: post #5

Given that OSX has got to a fairly stable point, what would you want to see in a new version of OSX that would make you want to upgrade?

Syncing. Syncing should be pulled out of iTunes and made a core feature of the operating system.

Support for over-the-air syncing of devices.

DLNA. I use MediaLink to stream from my MacBook Pro to the Sony PS3.

My USB scanner doesn't work when plugged into the Airport Extreme.

Basically, everything related to syncing, sharing, streaming, and networking in general should be improved.

The future of the Mac is connecting to the iPhone, iPad, AppleTV, MobileMe, and other devices.

Re: Apple to announce OS 10.7 (probably) on October 20

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Post by kogus »

I wish they would get rid of the absurd "mount a disk before you run an installer" paradigm. Installing an app downloaded from the web, Windows vs Mac:

Windows:

1 - Click a download link

2 - Yes, I'm sure

3 - Run

4 - Next, Next, Next, Finish

5 - Delete the setup file

OS X:

1 - Click a download link

2 - Yes, I'm sure

3 - Open a finder window

4 - Open .dmg file, and it mounts

5 - Open the mounted image

6 - Run the installer (or drag it somewhere, depending on the app)

7 - Continue, Continue, Finish

8 - Unmount the image

9 - Delete the .dmg file

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