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Re: Bye bye BetterSlack

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Could they really sue you for creating a chrome extension that modifies their webpage? That would be a very dark day for the internet. I can't imagine there's any legal basis for that, but it would be very interesting to hear a lawyer's opinion. Well done on what you have achieved, keep fighting the good fight!

I dont think they can, or all the adblockers would have been removed already.

Any extension that Interacts with pages. I have so many of them. Vimium injects itself onto every page.

Re: Bye bye BetterSlack

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I tried exactly that a few weeks ago and couldn't get to the messages interface.

Worksforme :)

I just checked with Firefox Focus on Android, and the 'launch' button is missing. Even if I go to the `/messages` URL I am redirected back to the account splash screen. That's my default browser, especially as I only wanted to log in for a minute to check on something on my personal device.

It does work with Firefox on Android (not Firefox Focus), if you check 'desktop mode'. Weird that you should have to fake the user-agent string to access it.

Re: Bye bye BetterSlack

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There are two problems with this approach: 1. I don't want to get involved in that, even if I'm based in Uruguay and they'd have a hard time suing me. 2. What they could do is put resources to detect the extension and block it. We could start a mouse and cat game that they'd win... I don't have their resources to invest in it. After all, all I wanted was to solve Slack for me, and that would make it harder.

On a side note, cool to see Uruguayans at the top of HN. Sorry it's under this circumstances. Congrats on your Stackoverflow job :) You wouldn't happen to have any recommendations for hiring web-devs here in Uruguay for a small startup? It's CRAZY HARD.

GO 🇺🇾! nope, I’ve never worked for a Uruguayan company ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Re: Bye bye BetterSlack

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woooooowwwwwww so... I could use riot to connect to my company’s slack? that’s a dream come true!!! I’ll def check it out

Speaking as someone working on matrix and riot, we would love you to come and do BetterSlack style things to Riot - we are getting tantalisingly close to being “as good as Slack” (except entirely FOSS, decentralised, standards based and with E2E encryption) - and positively encourage folks to customise the apps as long as they don’t introduce bugs or harm the security model. Plus we can just accept changes straight i…

you will def see me there

Re: Bye bye BetterSlack

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Slack is no longer for "hackers". It's mainstream now. My company of 500 with only 30 devs uses it. These are power moves by Slack. They want to have greater control over the communication medium and presentation If you thought they were ever going to support extensions of their IRC gateway for long, then you misunderstood their product and who their market was or rather who their market became

Embrace Extend <- we are here Extinguish

MS Teams has become pretty popular, but they haven't marketed it nearly as much as Slack.

Re: Bye bye BetterSlack

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I worked at a medium-sized company during the transition from IRC to Slack. The problem the company had was a split in comms networks. There was a lack of will on the part of engineers to move to GChat, and non-engineers were unwilling to respond/engage on IRC. Marketing, Sales, and Admin were using GChat, while engineering used IRC. Getting everyone on the same comms platform was a major improvement. I'm not saying…

I confess that, overall, that's been my experience with a few customers and that getting everyone on the same platform was ace. But as somebody who's got gchat gatewayed to IRC, replacing two things I can use from irssi with one thing I can't has always annoyed me.

Agreed

Re: Bye bye BetterSlack

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Slack is no longer for "hackers". It's mainstream now. My company of 500 with only 30 devs uses it. These are power moves by Slack. They want to have greater control over the communication medium and presentation If you thought they were ever going to support extensions of their IRC gateway for long, then you misunderstood their product and who their market was or rather who their market became

Out of curiosity, how do you feel about discord?

I use discord personally all the time and really wanted to use it for business but couldn't.

Some reasons:

* You are in all channels, all the time. * no threaded replies (most important) * the notifications system is weird * weak integration system (integrations cannot add widgets to chat)

Some more reasons that I forgot. But these ones most importantly.

Re: Bye bye BetterSlack

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> You don't have to literally sign something to be bound by an agreement. That's only in the US as far as I know, everywhere else you can't be bound by an agreement without signing anything.

This is absolutely false. Regardless of where you are, the majority of the agreements you enter into are not only not signed, they are not even explicit (but rather implied). Case in point: practically everytime you buy something and pay with cash, you have entered into a purchase agreement without having signed anything.

These are not terms of use but laws.

Re: Bye bye BetterSlack

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really cool approach by slack. create an environment to look nice to open source community, and make it a commercial, and then close itself to open source. great job slack!
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