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The planet isn't going to die if we irradiate ourselves into caves, but that doesn't mean irradiating the surface of the planet for shits and giggles is a good idea.
And this applies how?
Everyone is just pointing out that your position is a restated version of the naturalistic fallacy.
Methinks science has taken a backseat to rhetoric, regardless of the substance of the story.
It's almost as if this has happened before... But no, it's record breaking drought.
The associated study claims that these stones have been seen many times - they are likely to appear about five times per century. The study points out that the causes of droughts have changed. Previous droughts were largely due to a lack of precipitation. The current levels of precipitation is actually as high as it has even been. The cause of the current drought is record levels of heat. Despite statistically high l…
[1]: Report about draught from Czech meteorological agency, http://www.chmi.cz/files/portal/docs/tiskove_zpravy/2018/TZ_...
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The associated study claims that these stones have been seen many times - they are likely to appear about five times per century. The study points out that the causes of droughts have changed. Previous droughts were largely due to a lack of precipitation. The current levels of precipitation is actually as high as it has even been. The cause of the current drought is record levels of heat. Despite statistically high l…
Not entirely true, at least locally. Precipitation in Czech republic in August is just 40% of normal state for this month [1]. The lack of rains is a big deal here. [1]: Report about draught from Czech meteorological agency, http://www.chmi.cz/files/portal/docs/tiskove_zpravy/2018/TZ_...
Reminds me of the stones in Japan warning not to build homes below them. https://www.amusingplanet.com/2015/03/ancient-tsunami-warnin...
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A "record" has multiple shades of meaning. For example, temperature records must be officially observed, using (sufficiently) modern weather instrumentation. That's why https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_weather_records says "remotely sensed observations such as satellite measurements, since those values are not considered official records." This thread spun off into pedantry when you used the phrase "record break…
>So, who are you quoting when you use the phrase 'record breaking drought' Quoting the article on which this comment is being made.
The phrases are: 1) "They are known as the "hunger stones," and they were chosen in the past to record low water levels", 2) "As Europe wilts in the sweltering, record-breaking harshness of summer 2018", 3) "with water levels hitting record lows in Europe".
The last two provide links where I think it's clear that they refer to modern record keeping, eg, daily measurements of temperature, rainfall, water depth, etc.
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The associated study claims that these stones have been seen many times - they are likely to appear about five times per century. The study points out that the causes of droughts have changed. Previous droughts were largely due to a lack of precipitation. The current levels of precipitation is actually as high as it has even been. The cause of the current drought is record levels of heat. Despite statistically high l…
Not entirely true, at least locally. Precipitation in Czech republic in August is just 40% of normal state for this month [1]. The lack of rains is a big deal here. [1]: Report about draught from Czech meteorological agency, http://www.chmi.cz/files/portal/docs/tiskove_zpravy/2018/TZ_...
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It … can be both?! And given that the stones explicitly warn of catastrophe associated with the drought it doesn’t seem like a too common occurrence. (Also, on an unrelated note, it’s important not to confuse drought (for which there’s precedence) with global warming and recent heat waves (for which there isn’t precedence). The two are probably connected but they’re not the same.)
How can it have happened before and be record breaking? Why the unrelated note? Why assume I am an idiot?
I’m calling it “unrelated” because I’m giving you the benefit of doubt — in other words, I don’t assume you’re an idiot. But, on the other hand, this is a fairly common confusion that was repeatedly made by the press and otherwise informed people over the course of the summer. So it’s not that unrelated. (And just to clarify, those people still aren’t idiots. But they’re wrong.)
Reminds me of Japan's Tsunami Stones [1]. There are other examples around the world. I spend a lot of time in Guatemala at Lago Atitlan. Only the white people live at water level, the indigenous generally live up higher given the ever changing water line. Probably a combo of white colonialists 'know better' mindset + more $$ so it's not as much as a big deal (waterfront premium as a vacation versus subsistence home).…
I was there in 2005 and again 2012 and was astonished at how high the lake had risen, buildings were swamped out, beaches w1here we used to go gone. The lake was also getting dirty. Actually saw a documentary the other day on how this has only gotten worse. Some terrible pictures of how the lake looks at certain times of the year.
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There are periodic 'outbreaks' where the bacteria (I think I don't know it might be some other organism) cover the lake and kill it even further. It's very sad.
If you don't know the history, it was actually white Americans that decided it would be a great idea to bring in non-native fish to turn the lake into a fishing tourist destination. Ended up killing the ecosystem. Combined with a growing population moving to towns around the lake instead of the high farmlands, waste dumping straight into the lake, and very little ecosystem left to clean itself up I'm afraid the lake is in dire need of help.
There was a study recently by the Rotary that examined possible solutions and they came up with building hydro power (the lake sits a a high elevation with a natural 'dam'; it's almost perfectly setup already for this). I forget the mechanism but somehow this was one ID'ed as a top opportunity to clean up the lake, I assume since it would generate revenue.
The problem is corruption and $$$. Everyone has their hand out and there are countless examples of past efforts of small and large scale projects failing for lack of organization and corruption.
I think estimates for the hydro plant was low couple hundred million. It seems so doable especially right now (leverage China vs. Israel/US/Taiwan).
Except for the corruption.
Not sure if I believe this is a bright side or a dire warning: there is a loud and coordinated attack on the CIGIC even in US media big papers are publishing opinion pieces. It's disgusting to me given all that CIGIC has accomplished.
But the potential bright side is clearly the corrupt power class is very worried and maybe with the protection of a few US politicians and Israel CIGIC can fully clean house and Guatemala can continue to improve.
Anyways sorry about this reply again, I started to write a short reply and couldn't stop I'm sure you're not interested but I clearly am lol