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Trump unblocks more Twitter users after U.S. court ruling

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Re: Trump unblocks more Twitter users after U.S. court ruling

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The judiciary acting against Trump in this case may ultimately work against them. This judge just invented the concept of free speech rights on the internet, even on a private platform like Twitter. I fully understand that legally this is very different the issue of Facebook or Twitter "censoring" conservatives (and as a conservative, I actually support their right as private companies to operate as they see fit), an…

The amicus brief from the Internet Alliance makes that fear very clear: they demanded clarification that those decisions only apply to interactions with accounts that are clearly used as policy tool by the US Government. For me, the fact that this is the personal account and not @potus is the outlying factor. The court was explicit that, because policy was announced from that account, it made it a Government tool, su…

Yes but if the primary argument is based around the idea that everyone must have access to these “public channels” because their first amendment rights guarantee them a right to the information from the President and to be part of the conversation then a plausible argument can be made that Twitter, etc. cannot ban anyone from their site, or Facebook for that matter since Trump also uses it as a public forum. Even Nazis get their first amendment rights.

Furthermore this opens the door for a President to turn any private space into a “public forum” by using it for official government business.

The whole amicus just opens a Pandora’s box and would likely be struck down if the President cared enough to challenge it. It benefits Trump more to let this ruling stand as he attempts to muscle Twitter, Facebook, etc. into changing the hate speech rules they use to suspend conservative accounts.

Re: Trump unblocks more Twitter users after U.S. court ruling

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No, that's terrible, too. The stars of Star Wars, Episode VIII were harassed off social media by a bunch of trolls. No one should be forced off social media by trolls.

Couldn’t blocking just stop those people from communicating with you? You could still read all you want.

Not when they make wave after wave after wave of accounts to assail you with.

Re: Trump unblocks more Twitter users after U.S. court ruling

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Companies do dumb stuff all the time. As long as the numbers look good in the short term you can end up with stuff like open office plans becoming common even if they are a large net loss.

And tech nerds do dumb stuff all the time too like wanting to nerotically "finish" a timeline of tweets. I think it makes tons of sense that Twitter wants to show its best content to more people than whoever happens to be on the timeline at the exact moment it's posted. It's frustrating sometimes, but you can use TweetDeck and get a firehose anytime you'd like.

It’s not uncommon for someone to give birth outside of a hospital and often without a midwife, so you can just apply for one. http://healthland.time.com/2012/01/19/baby-born-while-mom-is...

Re: Trump unblocks more Twitter users after U.S. court ruling

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If Trump (or anyone) blocks you but you still want to read his tweets: Chrome incognito mode or log out of Twitter problem fixed lol

El Presidente should not have the power to exclude certain citizens from their communications.

I agree, and find the argument kinda funny, but is twitter really that?

You can make a new account or even ghost it to see it, not like its truly barring a user.

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The amicus brief from the Internet Alliance makes that fear very clear: they demanded clarification that those decisions only apply to interactions with accounts that are clearly used as policy tool by the US Government. For me, the fact that this is the personal account and not @potus is the outlying factor. The court was explicit that, because policy was announced from that account, it made it a Government tool, su…

Yes but if the primary argument is based around the idea that everyone must have access to these “public channels” because their first amendment rights guarantee them a right to the information from the President and to be part of the conversation then a plausible argument can be made that Twitter, etc. cannot ban anyone from their site, or Facebook for that matter since Trump also uses it as a public forum. Even Naz…

The argument in the First Amendment is that the Government cannot limit the right to access those public channels. If the paper mill union thinks that your opinions are abhorrent, they can refuse to sell you paper. Even if the Government demands that all communication be written.

Otherwise, because you can reach the Government by phone, you logic would mean phone companies are not allow to cut you the service for not paying it.

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If Trump (or anyone) blocks you but you still want to read his tweets: Chrome incognito mode or log out of Twitter problem fixed lol

El Presidente should not have the power to exclude certain citizens from their communications.

You must not have read the post you are replying too.

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Sure, but that's exactly the problem. The President having direct control over the visibility of somoene's speech. It's one thing if someone simply isn't popular, and therefore their speech isn't widely seen. It's another for the President to specifically suppress your speech. It really does constitute a first amendment violation, because it is an active decision to suppress the specific speech of specific individual…

How does one account muting another suppress their speech? Everyone else still sees the tweet.

Apparently, muting is fine. Blocking prevents comments from showing up in replies. It's a form of moderation.

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Oh I like that. Might get Twitter to actually do something about how uncivil they've let the general standard of discussion become if having that precious little checkmark meant it was impossible to block anyone.

In reality, those people would just leave Twitter.

That works too.

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In a slightly related topic to blocking people on twitter, Elon Musk is being investigated by the SEC for a whole whack of things he shouldn't have done. 1) Release material information without alerting the exchange to stop trading and 2) and this is the tie in, releasing said information on his personal twitter account. Now this is normally fine based on RegFD but he has blocked people on twitter and RegFD is very c…

> Release material information without alerting the exchange to stop trading This whole incident sort of blows my mind. It seems like this should be Operating a Public Company 101 level knowledge, and the fact that he failed so spectacularly leads me to believe either someone at Tesla or the exchanges screwed up royally with the timing of some preliminary work and Musk didn't make sure it was done ahead of time, or h…

He’s all but admitted that he completely winged it, while driving down the highway to the airport nonetheless.
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