Rideshare boycott sparked by murders in China
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Rideshare boycott sparked by murders in China
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#3Has anyone worked out what the base rate expectation of murder would be?
I think I read in the FT that Didi has booked a few billion rides in that period. How many people (and women) would normally be murdered in cabs?
The stories cited are obviously horrific and it sounds like Didi could have prevented them with a better system. But, I'd nonetheless be interested to know how safe this is to the alternative, and also how many murders we would expect in a few billion human interactions.
At that scale all our intuitions are off and we need to look at stats.
Re: Rideshare boycott sparked by murders in China
#4Has anyone worked out what the base rate expectation of murder would be? I think I read in the FT that Didi has booked a few billion rides in that period. How many people (and women) would normally be murdered in cabs? The stories cited are obviously horrific and it sounds like Didi could have prevented them with a better system. But, I'd nonetheless be interested to know how safe this is to the alternative, and also…
This, and before that taxi driver murderers were also heard of often in China (though I’m not sure if they were more likely to be murderers than average).
Also, Chinese police are overworked (China is extremely under policed ironically enough) and so tend to focus on seemingly easy but impractical solutions to fighting crime.
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#5What is the logic in this? How could the company behind the app possibly prevent this and what is it meant to do now? What if a librarian would go nuts and kill somebody, would they burn the library to ashes?
Re: Rideshare boycott sparked by murders in China
#6What is the logic in this? How could the company behind the app possibly prevent this and what is it meant to do now? What if a librarian would go nuts and kill somebody, would they burn the library to ashes?
The story mentions that someone claimed prior harassment by the driver in the most recent case. The appearance of non-responsiveness or a coverup can catalyze people's opinions.
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#7Has anyone worked out what the base rate expectation of murder would be? I think I read in the FT that Didi has booked a few billion rides in that period. How many people (and women) would normally be murdered in cabs? The stories cited are obviously horrific and it sounds like Didi could have prevented them with a better system. But, I'd nonetheless be interested to know how safe this is to the alternative, and also…
This, and before that taxi driver murderers were also heard of often in China (though I’m not sure if they were more likely to be murderers than average). Also, Chinese police are overworked (China is extremely under policed ironically enough) and so tend to focus on seemingly easy but impractical solutions to fighting crime.
There’s often political pressures on police departments to fix unpopular statistics, and not the actual issue.
Most famously this leads Japanese departments to label difficult murder cases as suicides.
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#8Has anyone worked out what the base rate expectation of murder would be? I think I read in the FT that Didi has booked a few billion rides in that period. How many people (and women) would normally be murdered in cabs? The stories cited are obviously horrific and it sounds like Didi could have prevented them with a better system. But, I'd nonetheless be interested to know how safe this is to the alternative, and also…
This, and before that taxi driver murderers were also heard of often in China (though I’m not sure if they were more likely to be murderers than average). Also, Chinese police are overworked (China is extremely under policed ironically enough) and so tend to focus on seemingly easy but impractical solutions to fighting crime.
Do you have data supporting data for your claim?
I'm a Chinese and this kind of murders are really rare. The last one I heard in my hometown (a small costal city) is over 10 years ago.
And with taxi-hailing apps' commence, this is becoming really rare since the driver can easily pin-pointed (by cross-referencing ubiquitous street cams). Actually in this case the murderer got arrested soon afterwards.
While I agree China is under policed, they are generally more effective in body offenses and thanks to street cams (again). These years even home break-ins are rare. As who lived in SF for a year, it's definitely better than SFPD.
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#9What is the logic in this? How could the company behind the app possibly prevent this and what is it meant to do now? What if a librarian would go nuts and kill somebody, would they burn the library to ashes?
In this case, the driver is already reported in another misbehaving. But Didi still allows the driver to take more passengers.
Most Chinese people are not boycotting the Rideshare as a way of transportation, they are claiming Didi is not working effectively in this case.
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
This, and before that taxi driver murderers were also heard of often in China (though I’m not sure if they were more likely to be murderers than average). Also, Chinese police are overworked (China is extremely under policed ironically enough) and so tend to focus on seemingly easy but impractical solutions to fighting crime.
Do you have data supporting data for your claim? I'm a Chinese and this kind of murders are really rare. The last one I heard in my hometown (a small costal city) is over 10 years ago. And with taxi-hailing apps' commence, this is becoming really rare since the driver can easily pin-pointed (by cross-referencing ubiquitous street cams). Actually in this case the murderer got arrested soon afterwards. While I agree Ch…
I don't think the point was that cab murders were high, just that both were low, so the whole freak out is probably not rational.
The "heard of often" just means it gets plastered on the news / social media when it does happen.