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A majority of US teens are taking steps to limit smartphone and social media use

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Re: A majority of US teens are taking steps to limit smartphone and social media use

#101

This underscores why I'm almost inherently biased against most regulations. In a lot (not saying all) of cases, we figure out what's bad for us and make decisions to help solve it. Social, legal, and economic issues in our society often appear to work themselves out when left to their own devices. Yet, so many have the opposite gut reaction: Teens using too much social media? Regulate the industry! Tax them! Take awa…

I genuinely don't think I've ever heard anyone suggest teenage phone use should be regulated. Generally regulations are suggested when bad actors are blatantly unwilling or unable to regulate themselves.

Here you go. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17671176

Re: A majority of US teens are taking steps to limit smartphone and social media use

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Headline: A majority of U.S. teens are taking steps to limit smartphone and social media use The study: 52% – said they are trying to limit their phone use in various ways. Addicts will often lie about trying to get clean. "Trying to do" something is also not the same as "doing" something something. I'm not saying that teens aren't taking concrete steps to reduce smartphone and social media use, and after all, the fi…

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Re: A majority of US teens are taking steps to limit smartphone and social media use

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I just bought a Nokia 3310 3G and plan to curb my smartphone use completely. I'm sick to death of looking at my phone being the only thing I do. I used to do things at night, projects, hobbies, meeting people, and going places. I drive places now via GPS and have no recollection of how I got there. Driving without GPS makes you actually look at your surroundings and enjoy them and start making mental maps again. That…

I would LOVE to go back to a dumb phone like this, but three use cases really prevent me from doing so at the moment: 1) GPS / Maps for navigation: I agree with your sentiment, but I find that I"m _more_ likely to travel or take adventures when I know I can fall back to Google / Apple Maps as a safeguard for getting me from A-to-B, or finding new places around me. 2) Uber / Lyft / Ride Sharing: I can already use Siri…

I had similar worries but I want to use a paper map again and I want to use my excellent Pentax ME Super 35mm camera again to take quality photos. The 3310 has a 2 mp camera for emergency photos. It can hold 7 (!) pics in the internal memory unless you add an SD card, haha.

I don't use Uber, so I don't have that issue. I can see where that may be troublesome and I agree a text service would be nice for that.

Re: A majority of US teens are taking steps to limit smartphone and social media use

#104

It's important for people to remember that humans are still intelligent creatures that are capable of recognizing, eventually, what's good for them and what isn't. How many of you guys remember the 70s and 80s, when TV and video games were supposed to turn us all into zombies? What happened? We eventually learned how to see these things as the tools that they are. Humans get fascinated by the new and shiny. This fasc…

ahh...the gutengurg printig press... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johannes_Gutenberg

Re: A majority of US teens are taking steps to limit smartphone and social media use

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I like reading books, but there's nothing inherently good about getting knowledge through books. Especially a lot of the "entrepreneur" or "productivity" books, where you have 80% padding because nobody wants to buy a 40 page book.

> there's nothing inherently good about getting knowledge through books Strongly disagree. Reading a book requires patience and comfort with delayed gratification. Not only does it require it; I think it also develops it.

Which is why Audiobooks are popular & the most used feature is 2X playback on Audible.*

*No stats on this. They really don't have any features in their apps, so pretty confident here.

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> I'd be flat out surprised if books didn't have their detractors back in the day. They most certainly did have. This reminds me about Socrates' take on books: "for this discovery of yours will create forgetfulness in the learners' souls, because they will not use their memories; they will trust to the external written characters and not remember of themselves. The specific which you have discovered is an aid not to…

And then we have this counter-quote from another great mind: "I never commit to memory anything that can easily be looked up in a book" - Albert Einstein

Yes and these days it's mostly s/book/wikipedia/

Re: A majority of US teens are taking steps to limit smartphone and social media use

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Yes, there have been a lot of concern about novels spoiling girls.

Not only girls. They were thought as "unmanly" for a while. Men were supposed to read technical and historical books, not "girly" novels. There's even a quip from Napoleon about it.

[re:] louis l'amour... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_L%27Amour

Re: A majority of US teens are taking steps to limit smartphone and social media use

#109

It's important for people to remember that humans are still intelligent creatures that are capable of recognizing, eventually, what's good for them and what isn't. How many of you guys remember the 70s and 80s, when TV and video games were supposed to turn us all into zombies? What happened? We eventually learned how to see these things as the tools that they are. Humans get fascinated by the new and shiny. This fasc…

I agree. It seems we are just constantly moving from one moral panic to the next. It doesn't mean that there are no valid concerns, just that we need to stop and realize that overdramatizing everything isn't actually solving any problems. I would argue its just another problem caused by our inability as a nation to rise above a childish level of discussion on just about any subject.

News media dramatize situations for views. There is, in life and in business, always a current problem(s) of one sort or another... it's when existential emergencies are vigilantly remediated and replaced by trivial "first-world" annoyances that life or business is good.

Re: A majority of US teens are taking steps to limit smartphone and social media use

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> I'd be flat out surprised if books didn't have their detractors back in the day. They most certainly did have. This reminds me about Socrates' take on books: "for this discovery of yours will create forgetfulness in the learners' souls, because they will not use their memories; they will trust to the external written characters and not remember of themselves. The specific which you have discovered is an aid not to…

I, for one, find that quite hard to argue with. I guess that makes me tiresome company.

critical review is important, you shouldnt feel cowed against a rational argument, if we all agreed with each other then the first idea that occured would be accompanied by mutual consensus then we would snap to a halt and go nowhere with no variation or innovation
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