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The GDPR Is a Cookie Monster

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Re: The GDPR Is a Cookie Monster

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My country is so great. How on Earth did we register 30% positive growth of third-party domains and 20% growth of third-party cookies?

(Good that I don't generally visit the local Internet much anyway.)

Re: The GDPR Is a Cookie Monster

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I'm glad the GDPR actually manages to enforce one of it's lesser talked about principals: data minimasation. What is worrying about this article is that it implies companies are using other, even less consensual ways of tracking users. Or maybe I'm reading too much into it.

Re: The GDPR Is a Cookie Monster

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I'm glad the GDPR actually manages to enforce one of it's lesser talked about principals: data minimasation. What is worrying about this article is that it implies companies are using other, even less consensual ways of tracking users. Or maybe I'm reading too much into it.

That was my take on it as well:

> In a September 2017 study of 250 US digital marketers by Viant, about 60% of respondents said they will no longer rely on cookies for the majority of their digital marketing within the next two years.

The absence of any description about what they will use instead is frustrating.

Re: The GDPR Is a Cookie Monster

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The "Factsheet" this is about (7 page pdf - https://reutersinstitute.politics.ox.ac.uk/sites/default/fil... ) >All results presented here reflect site activity prior to obtaining consent; the picture may change dramatically once the user provides the affirmative opt-in GDPR requires. So, meh.

Yep. If anything, things are worse now. You HAVE to give consent to do anything useful on the website (so blocking the notice won't work), and in the consent form it's usually very hard to turn tracking off, full of dark patterns.

Not legal from the perspective of GDPR, sure, but it seems that everyone is doing it.

/edit: downvoted for stating basic facts, amazing.

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The "Factsheet" this is about (7 page pdf - https://reutersinstitute.politics.ox.ac.uk/sites/default/fil... ) >All results presented here reflect site activity prior to obtaining consent; the picture may change dramatically once the user provides the affirmative opt-in GDPR requires. So, meh.

Yep. If anything, things are worse now. You HAVE to give consent to do anything useful on the website (so blocking the notice won't work), and in the consent form it's usually very hard to turn tracking off, full of dark patterns. Not legal from the perspective of GDPR, sure, but it seems that everyone is doing it. /edit: downvoted for stating basic facts, amazing.

And I hope they will all get heavy fines for doing so. Let's see how well the EU will enforce the GDPR.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. If anything, things are worse now. You HAVE to give consent to do anything useful on the website (so blocking the notice won't work), and in the consent form it's usually very hard to turn tracking off, full of dark patterns. Not legal from the perspective of GDPR, sure, but it seems that everyone is doing it. /edit: downvoted for stating basic facts, amazing.

And I hope they will all get heavy fines for doing so. Let's see how well the EU will enforce the GDPR.

I honestly don't get why so many sites are even paying attention to GDPR. If they don't have a presence in the EU, it is irrelevant.

Re: The GDPR Is a Cookie Monster

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I'm glad the GDPR actually manages to enforce one of it's lesser talked about principals: data minimasation. What is worrying about this article is that it implies companies are using other, even less consensual ways of tracking users. Or maybe I'm reading too much into it.

That was my take on it as well: > In a September 2017 study of 250 US digital marketers by Viant, about 60% of respondents said they will no longer rely on cookies for the majority of their digital marketing within the next two years. The absence of any description about what they will use instead is frustrating.

Well if they talked about browser fingerprinting via javascript, someone would take a stab that too

Re: The GDPR Is a Cookie Monster

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The "Factsheet" this is about (7 page pdf - https://reutersinstitute.politics.ox.ac.uk/sites/default/fil... ) >All results presented here reflect site activity prior to obtaining consent; the picture may change dramatically once the user provides the affirmative opt-in GDPR requires. So, meh.

Yep. If anything, things are worse now. You HAVE to give consent to do anything useful on the website (so blocking the notice won't work), and in the consent form it's usually very hard to turn tracking off, full of dark patterns. Not legal from the perspective of GDPR, sure, but it seems that everyone is doing it. /edit: downvoted for stating basic facts, amazing.

...which is not compliant. "Opt out everywhere" has to be the default when you click accept.

But for version 2 of GDPR I'd like to see something like: No landing pages. Content must be served on the first request. And no Captchas for Tor users.

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