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Re: Australia’s Proposed Surveillance Laws Will Break the Trust Tech Depends On

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Post by Guthur »

elitistphoenix wrote: post #2

Typical government. Scream terrorists and paedophiles and try and erode people's freedom even more because no one can disagree /s

Why the sarcasm?

I suppose it's not that you can't disagree it's just that apathy means many won't and walk heard first into a Soviet/east german stasi society. This is even the stuff of fiction we have recent history to look upon. But it's all for the greater good, right? Born of compassion and a desire to protect surely?

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Post by consp »

Guthur wrote: post #3
elitistphoenix wrote: post #2

Typical government. Scream terrorists and paedophiles and try and erode people's freedom even more because no one can disagree /s

Why the sarcasm? I suppose it's not that you can't disagree it's just that apathy means many won't and walk heard first into a Soviet/east german stasi society. This is even the stuff of fiction we have recent history to look upon. But it's all for the greater good, right? Born of compassion and a desire to protect surely?

At least the stasi took the effort to do it themselves (as it was a police state anyway). The Australian order would force you to comply.

Though as a company, for this law, I would be sure to take the possibility for bad press and loss of customers into the billing calculations. And those are huge.

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Post by marcus_holmes »

Always find it amazing how strong the urge to authoritarianism is in Australia. You'd think we'd all be larrikins and chilled out on the beach inviting newcomers to the barbie.

But no, we're apparently terrified of immigrants and love nothing more than the smack of firm leadership.

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Post by dane-pgp »

All the more reason to speed up the deployment and implementation of Binary Transparency:

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Binary_Transparency

Even if this is only used to detect after-the-fact that an attack has happened, that will still help us to assess the scale of the risks that software users face, and maybe allow citizens to hold governments accountable for how they use the dangerous powers they are seeking.

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Post by Ntrails »

Guthur wrote: post #3
elitistphoenix wrote: post #2

Typical government. Scream terrorists and paedophiles and try and erode people's freedom even more because no one can disagree /s

Why the sarcasm? I suppose it's not that you can't disagree it's just that apathy means many won't and walk heard first into a Soviet/east german stasi society. This is even the stuff of fiction we have recent history to look upon. But it's all for the greater good, right? Born of compassion and a desire to protect surely?

> apathy means many won't and walk heard first into a Soviet/east german stasi society.

It could be apathy, or it could be that they genuinely believe the government is doing the right thing. Don't discount the latter because the former is easier for your worldview

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Post by taneq »

marcus_holmes wrote: post #6

Always find it amazing how strong the urge to authoritarianism is in Australia. You'd think we'd all be larrikins and chilled out on the beach inviting newcomers to the barbie. But no, we're apparently terrified of immigrants and love nothing more than the smack of firm leadership.

All of the larrikins are now in their 60s and 70s and are terrified that anyone else might have the same fun that they had.
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