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Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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What's wrong with GMail? Google stopped mining it last year: https://blog.google/products/gmail/g-suite-gains-traction-in...

All the other reasons you shouldn’t use a “free” email service. You can be locked out of your account for arbitrary-reason-of-the-day and good luck finding a contact number or email address for support. If email is important to you, you probably shouldn’t be using a “free” service.

The big problem with email lock-in is that when you switch providers, you can't take your old address with you. Best case, you can set up forwarding. Worst case, if your account just gets deleted, or the provider goes out of business, everyone who only knows your old address cannot contact you anymore.

This, in turn, means that even when considering non-free email service providers, you need some reassurance that provider will be around and will not institute crazy policies in the future. Which favors large providers like Google over smaller ones, and reinforces the lock-in.

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

#92
post #67

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Why does Facebook think it has the right to remove years of their users' contributions? Huh? We're talking about Facebook refusing to keep reposting stuff from another site. That seems like exactly the opposite of the stuff Facebook might have some responsibility for, if it did have responsibility for stuff. I mean, obviously, it's ambiguous whether Facebook is a repository, a gate-keeper, a community, a blogging-sit…

> We're talking about Facebook refusing to keep reposting stuff from another site. We're talking about how Facebook not only turned off the API that enabled reposting, but removed all past posts that were made via that API. Which, at that point, was exactly the kind of user data that they had responsibility for.

Well the good news is that Facebook seems to be incapable of actually deleating anything so I’m sure this data is not lost forever ;)

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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post #35
post #10

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No, it’s the equivalent of GitHub deciding to remove all the code that you automatically re-post from SourceForge. In what way, AT ALL, was this this feature good for FACEBOOK? It meant people could be “on” Facebook and “active” without ever actually logging in or using the app or engaging in any way. Why would they want to just be a dumping ground for copies of another social network’s posts? I guess I’m surprised t…

It's the other way around. Why does Facebook think it has the right to remove years of their users' contributions? As the years march on, I think we'll see more and more data protection laws in favor of users rather than companies. Data is the new uranium, not the new oil. It needs to be protected and taken seriously. You can argue that it's Facebook's site and that they can do whatever they want. I argue that they c…

The concept of "emotional harm" is absurd post-modern nonsense. I am responsible for my own emotions, not Mark Zuckerberg.

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

#94
post #91

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All the other reasons you shouldn’t use a “free” email service. You can be locked out of your account for arbitrary-reason-of-the-day and good luck finding a contact number or email address for support. If email is important to you, you probably shouldn’t be using a “free” service.

The big problem with email lock-in is that when you switch providers, you can't take your old address with you. Best case, you can set up forwarding. Worst case, if your account just gets deleted, or the provider goes out of business, everyone who only knows your old address cannot contact you anymore. This, in turn, means that even when considering non-free email service providers, you need some reassurance that pro…

Fastmail has been around for almost 20 years and I've been using them for more than 10.

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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post #87
post #3

This is pretty crazy. For people whose job is social media, this is basically the equivalent of Github just arbitrarily deciding they're going to delete all of your startup's source code without telling anyone in advance, or like Google Docs just deciding to disappear all your spreadsheets. With only a couple months until election season, Facebook is now literally editing politician's pages and deleting the campaign…

I find it impossible to sympathize with anyone who considers social media a "job".

It's PR, but on the web. Unless PR is also not a job?

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

#97

Hanlon's razor, anybody? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor . This could just be a mistake.

The article contains a quote from Facebook which strongly implies it is a mistake. I guess no-one read the article.

“Reached for comment, Facebook says it’s aware of the issue and is looking into it.”

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

#98
post #87
post #3

This is pretty crazy. For people whose job is social media, this is basically the equivalent of Github just arbitrarily deciding they're going to delete all of your startup's source code without telling anyone in advance, or like Google Docs just deciding to disappear all your spreadsheets. With only a couple months until election season, Facebook is now literally editing politician's pages and deleting the campaign…

I find it impossible to sympathize with anyone who considers social media a "job".

Jesus. Please fuck off.

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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post #87

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I find it impossible to sympathize with anyone who considers social media a "job".

It's PR, but on the web. Unless PR is also not a job?

In my estimation Noam Chomsky has the best take on this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET_at6tPlsE

Re: Twitter’s deletion of its FB app caused old cross-posts to temporarily disappear

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post #35
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it’s the equivalent of GitHub deciding to remove all the code that you automatically re-post from SourceForge. In what way, AT ALL, was this this feature good for FACEBOOK? It meant people could be “on” Facebook and “active” without ever actually logging in or using the app or engaging in any way. Why would they want to just be a dumping ground for copies of another social network’s posts? I guess I’m surprised t…

It's the other way around. Why does Facebook think it has the right to remove years of their users' contributions? As the years march on, I think we'll see more and more data protection laws in favor of users rather than companies. Data is the new uranium, not the new oil. It needs to be protected and taken seriously. You can argue that it's Facebook's site and that they can do whatever they want. I argue that they c…

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