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NYC Mesh – community-owned network to replace your current internet connection
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#53This doesn't seem to actually be a mesh network.
Can you please elaborate?
I think I was a bit too terse, but I really feel like it's on them to explain themselves better. They link to this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=glW_...
That does not describe anything related to a mesh network. It appears that the people running it are joining nodes in a mesh network, but they don't seem to be encouraging you to join in a mesh network.
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#54I was participating in NYC Mesh for awhile, but eventually I had to unplug because I got notices from my ISP about copyright infringement and I didn't want my internet access to get shut off. So sad. I really want this effort to succeed.
Freifunk, a somewhat similar German project solves this by using a mesh VPN to tunnel traffic out.
why would i go through all this effort just to let some stranger torrent iron man on my internet account
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#55Stuff like this make me long to live in NYC. Only city in the US with the density, technical expertise, and money for this kind of thing to happen.
I thought the same was true for the Bay Area, hence why I moved here. I was genuinely surprised to find Google Fiber isn't even available, let alone any mesh networks. In all other aspects of technical expertise though it's blowing my previous city, Houston, away. Companies open to candidates based on technical expertise alone (rather than throwing non-B.S. degrees straight into the garbage), lots of great meetups, l…
Monkeybrains (https://www.monkeybrains.net/) operates a mesh network in SF. They're not community owned but they are very much a local business.
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
Freifunk, a somewhat similar German project solves this by using a mesh VPN to tunnel traffic out.
why would i go through all this effort just to let some stranger torrent iron man on my internet account
Collective action can give all of us, including ourselves, more freedom. This isn’t about torrents, it’s about the freedom to use the internet without surveillance and monitoring of our every move.
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#57Stuff like this make me long to live in NYC. Only city in the US with the density, technical expertise, and money for this kind of thing to happen.
I know people doing this in Detroit on a smaller scale. The nodes are I believe using cable modems, not 20 GB connections. But it's free because they have money from a foundation and it's all volunteers. It's all about getting the poor on the net.
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/kz3xyz/detroit-me...
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#58I've been wanting to get involved in this kind of thing for a while now. Shame they use Slack, and not an open platform like Matrix or IRC, though!
Nitpicking about tool choices is not a useful contribution to a volunteer project starved for resources. There are better ways to contribute.
there are certainly better ways to contribute, but i’m not sure it’s nitpicking. it seems like this issue is pretty close to the network’s core values and reason for existing: getting away from centralisation, censorship, big companies, etc
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#59CBC has a very good piece on NYC Mesh: http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/wifi-nyc-mesh-new-york-cit... Also André Staltz's TEDx Talk that mentions it: https://youtu.be/UjfWAbGfPh0 I really do hope this succeeds and takes off amid the likely scenario that SCOTUS will eventually kill Net Neutrality for good in the next two years. Things like this are the way to go if we want a bit more freedom in terms of surfing the w…
You may enjoy: https://staltz.com/a-plan-to-rescue-the-web-from-the-interne...
Also, if you're curious about what that looks like today: https://scuttlebutt.nz
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
its better to have it 50% of the time than 0% of the time... radio waves dont do well in fog either... how would you run ethernet at a distance greater than 500 feet?
Radio is much less susceptible to fog than light because of the lower frequency. Usually, at any large distances, you'd try to use fibre optic cables if at all possible.
Unfortutnately i post too fast, and dont care about karma...
I cant say ive ever downvoted someone over meaningfuly criticical review...
...lower frequency means lower bandwith...wifi frequencies have trouble bouncing around in fog penetrating leaves or even a couple thickness of drywall this is why submarines use ELF...
where will you run your fibre optic? on the utility poles, or buried in the ground? how do you connect to someone more than 500 feet from you using ethernet cable how do you mitigate vandalism or theft of your fibre?
if you have no connection at all that is inferior to a high bandwith long haul between supernodes that cache each other and are uni directional communicating thus minimizing evesdropping concerns...