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Magic Leap One now available for $2295

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Re: Magic Leap One now available for $2295

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Post by 0xCMP »

pwaai wrote: post #39
taurath wrote: post #10

Really seems like a money furnace for the investors here.

Well if you are privileged to invest in Magic Leap One, they probably aren't hurting...no sympathy from me when their plans to buy a yacht is ruined :/ It is backed by Google so there is probably plans to improve the hardware which as it stands is not impressive OR knowing Google they could pull the plug just as easily. In fact, Magic Leap One, is looking to be a major major flop, shortly after somebody released a re…

It's not all about the investors dude. Money misallocated means companies, solutions, and inventions that could have been built aren't since the money wasn't there.

We all lose when that happens.

This is a developer device. We'll see when they release the consumer one if it flops, but that'll probably be if no one makes the apps or games it needs to be successful.

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Post by eganist »

40acres wrote: post #50

It's interesting reading startup literature regarding MVPs and iterating quickly and notice that almost none of it applies to the AR/VR space. Between Magic Leap and Ubiquty6 it seems like the most interesting players in AR are more notable for their funding rounds than for anything else. Magic Leap is rolling out their own hardware so it's more understandable but its really hard to justify spending $2K on a first ge…

> ultimately too expensive and too late

Their only (admittedly public) rival in the space is Microsoft, and adoption of HoloLens even as a developer platform hasn't exactly been groundbreaking.

There are still many laps left 'til the finish line.

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Post by chooseaname »

aphextron wrote: post #60
dmode wrote: post #52

Magic Leap raised boatloads of money, which game me the impression that they are really building something mass market that can be useful for most people in this world. I am not into gaming and have kids, so cannot wear AR glasses in my home and walk around. Are there use cases for Magic Leap that support non gamers ? Or is it mostly a niche product like an Oculus ?

>Are there use cases for Magic Leap that support non gamers ? Or is it mostly a niche product like an Oculus ? AR will definitely be the way forward for all computing. This brief awkward period of 50ish years using analog inputs and physical screens which we are currently living through will be seen as a blip in the history of human-computer interaction hundreds of years from now. However the only use case for this i…

The problem is people don't want stuff on their face.

They tolerate glasses because they are a necessity for most wearers. But if you hang outside the LensCrafters store and ask people, nearly all would tell you they generally dislike wearing them[0].

[0] Yeah, I know, there are people who wear them for "fashion".

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Post by oihoaihsfoiahsf »

40acres wrote: post #50

It's interesting reading startup literature regarding MVPs and iterating quickly and notice that almost none of it applies to the AR/VR space. Between Magic Leap and Ubiquty6 it seems like the most interesting players in AR are more notable for their funding rounds than for anything else. Magic Leap is rolling out their own hardware so it's more understandable but its really hard to justify spending $2K on a first ge…

Startup literature about MVPs is mostly relevant to software products, which are inexpensive to develop compared to almost anything else.

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Post by GW150914 »

freeone3000 wrote: post #53
jazzyjackson wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven't seen anything that differentiates it from Hololens at this point. Their 'waveguide' tech apparently allows it to create graphics in focus at 0.5m and also at 5m, but having items become out of focus with the rest of the world, never seemed like a hindrance to me since if I wasn't focused on it, well, I wasn't paying attention. They have eye-tracking tech but aren't using it yet. The Palmer piece (Magic Leap…

It has a slightly wider field of view and two focal planes. Also, it's cheaper.

It also has a wired headset to a belt computing device, and a dimmer view of the real world. I’m not convinced that the FOV is worth that.

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Post by xixixao »

aphextron wrote: post #60
dmode wrote: post #52

Magic Leap raised boatloads of money, which game me the impression that they are really building something mass market that can be useful for most people in this world. I am not into gaming and have kids, so cannot wear AR glasses in my home and walk around. Are there use cases for Magic Leap that support non gamers ? Or is it mostly a niche product like an Oculus ?

>Are there use cases for Magic Leap that support non gamers ? Or is it mostly a niche product like an Oculus ? AR will definitely be the way forward for all computing. This brief awkward period of 50ish years using analog inputs and physical screens which we are currently living through will be seen as a blip in the history of human-computer interaction hundreds of years from now. However the only use case for this i…

I am a big VR/AR fan, but I am interacting with this forum sitting in a chair moving my hands max 2 inches there and back. That's comfortable. That's something I can do for hours and hours. It's quite possible that VR/AR will augment, not replace.

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Post by dantheman »

40acres wrote: post #50

It's interesting reading startup literature regarding MVPs and iterating quickly and notice that almost none of it applies to the AR/VR space. Between Magic Leap and Ubiquty6 it seems like the most interesting players in AR are more notable for their funding rounds than for anything else. Magic Leap is rolling out their own hardware so it's more understandable but its really hard to justify spending $2K on a first ge…

Oculus started out as an MVP. It was a kickstarter project.

Re: Magic Leap One now available for $2295

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Post by DonHopkins »

hexeater wrote: post #32
DonHopkins wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm shocked, I say shocked, that something from Magic Leap could possibly be said to reek of marketing. You should spend the next six minutes and seventeen seconds of your life watching this amazing piece of public relations magic that transparently unveils the deep truth of what Magic Leap is really all about: The synthesis of imagination: Rony Abovitz and Magic Leap at TEDxSarasota https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w…

I suppose we have to suffer this type of non-content in order to enable those who ultimately deliver the goods!

Just like the way we had to suffer through the developer slave auctions at the infamous Microsoft "Pax Romana" toga party in Spartan Arena they rented along with real live lions for the DirectX II launch party, which decades later eventually led to the Hololens. The ends always justify the means.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.games.programmer...

https://books.google.nl/books?id=1wEAAAAAMBAJ&pg=PT115&lpg=P...

>If somebody entered a tournament and won, they got money and gifts from the sponsors. If they lost, centurions would march them off at spear point and confine them to the slave pit to be auctioned to the audience or fed to the lions. There were two live lions at the party, but only one actually escaped during the event.

(I witnessed the event. The lions were real, and Microsoft was handing out as much free Silly String to drunken developers as they could carry. The article accurately goes on to describe the Roman orgy, slave girls in brightly colored robes and slave men in loin cloths and sandals, and slaves hand feeding grapes to the party's corporate sponsors wearing robes, and fanning them with palms, and the slave auction. But I digress...)

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