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Trump Accuses Google of Burying Conservative News in Search Results

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Re: Trump Accuses Google of Burying Conservative News in Search Results

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Try searching for "American inventors" or "American scientists" on Google and tell me if you notice anything odd.

Would you care to further explain your point and how that relates to the article at all? Bonus points if you can do it without saying something racist or already debunked.

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Yikes this is a complex topic. There’s a couple of things at play: Google does control (unbiased or biased) a significant portion of what internet users see This control has the potential to sway public opinion, direct discourse, and economically make or break businesses (even those that extend beyond media) Personally I believe gigantic internet companies like Google require more regulation because they can’t be tru…

I do not believe Silicon Valley has shown thoughtfulness and care for the republic in a way that I would trust them to enact this regulation.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is your suspicion here?

I think the poster's referring to the overrepresentation of black scientists in that result, implying political motivation. It's pretty clear that it's just an artifact of the collision with the common search term "african american scientists". The result for "united states scientists" more or less proves this to be the case.

by "overrepresentation of black scientists", in my case it means 100%.

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Surely there’s a way to study this and generate some meaningful statistics on whether Google (and others) actually bury conservative stories. Or maybe it’s already been studied, and either supported or rebutted.

This came out the 25 August 2018:

"96 Percent of Google Search Results for 'Trump' News Are from Liberal Media Outlets"

https://pjmedia.com/trending/google-search-results-show-perv...

Google supported Clinton and threw resources behind her campaign:

"However, one can't help but be skeptical considering that just before the 2016 presidential election, among the many leaks published by Wikileaks as part of its Podesta email campaign was Google's "strategic plan" to help democrats win the election and track voters." from

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-28/google-responds-tr...

More at

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-01/wikileaks-reveals-...

I fail to see how that does not continue today.

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What's the proof? > Mr. Trump’s criticism appeared to be inspired by a segment last night from Fox Business Network host Lou Dobbs. During the program, Mr. Dobbs highlighted an article by a conservative website, PJ Media, that said that it had conducted an unscientific study in which 96 percent of Google search results for the word “Trump” were articles from “left-leaning sites.” Oh boy: an "unscientific study", what…

So "left leaning" meaning anything to the left of Breitbart and thus even vaguely fact-based?

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There's a dupe that got flagged here:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17858874

Perhaps this story will also get flagged - it seems there's a lot of people who don't like discussion of political bias in Silicon Valley companies on HN.

It's pretty easy to see why Trump thinks this. Just go to Google News and search Trump, then look at which news sources are selected. Or just look at this helpful pie chart:

https://static.pjmedia.com/trending/user-content/51/files/20...

The way News selects and ranks sources is even more opaque than web search. Web search at least has some papers describing how it works, but News searches only over a subset of the web selected by humans.

What policies do they use to decide what gets to be included?

https://support.google.com/news/publisher-center/answer/6204...

They state:

We do not allow content that sends messages intended to harass, bully, or physically or sexually threaten others.

We do not allow sites or accounts that engage in coordinated activity to mislead users

We do not allow content that promotes violence or harassment against an individual or group based on ethnic origin, religion, disability, gender, age, veteran status, sexual orientation or gender identity.

Well, that's going to be a problem for Google because by now everyone got the memo that the student generation that Google has been hiring extensively from for years now is willing to define almost any kind of viewpoint that isn't extremely liberal as "harassment" or "hate". Including fairly anodyne policies Trump has, like there being limits on immigration.

How will Google credibly argue they aren't biased when their inclusion policy for Google News reads like a list of guidelines to a university safe space?

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"Old man shouts at cloud" This has been a conservative talking point for a while. I'm surprised it's taken him this long to publicly complain about it.

Seems like conservative news sites that are claiming this ought to be able to use Google’s own analytic tools to highlight any trends against them.

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Yikes this is a complex topic. There’s a couple of things at play: Google does control (unbiased or biased) a significant portion of what internet users see This control has the potential to sway public opinion, direct discourse, and economically make or break businesses (even those that extend beyond media) Personally I believe gigantic internet companies like Google require more regulation because they can’t be tru…

I do not believe Silicon Valley has shown thoughtfulness and care for the republic in a way that I would trust them to enact this regulation.

I do not believe Silicon Valley has shown thoughtfulness and care for the republic in a way that I would trust them to enact this regulation.

I trust Silicon Valley a hell of a lot more than I trust our government...

Re: Trump Accuses Google of Burying Conservative News in Search Results

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the poster's referring to the overrepresentation of black scientists in that result, implying political motivation. It's pretty clear that it's just an artifact of the collision with the common search term "african american scientists". The result for "united states scientists" more or less proves this to be the case.

by "overrepresentation of black scientists", in my case it means 100%.

Huh I see Einstein and Feynman in the top few results. Again, if you just switch the term to start with "united states" there are literally zero black people in the top results so seems unlikely it's a conspiracy.
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