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RssHub – A feed aggregator that can generate feeds from pretty much everything

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Re: RssHub – A feed aggregator that can generate feeds from pretty much everything

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Post by disiplus »

gsich wrote: post #35
disiplus wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

your phone number is not your username on telegram. the username on telegram is like a handle on twitter, with the difference that on telegram you dont have to have a username. you can message anybody in your contacts without username. but if you chose to have a username on telegram that username is public, and searchable. and the worst part is that anybody can add your username to any channel. so tltr: username on t…

>your phone number is not your username on telegram yes I know, haven't written that. >and the worst part is that anybody can add your username to any channel my point was that other messengers have public usernames too, mostly their phone number and suffer from that same problem.

> my point was that other messengers have public usernames too, mostly their phone number and suffer from that same problem.

the difference is important. the thing that is happening with telegram is the expected behavior, you are supposed to be able to add random online users with their username to groups and contact them, that is also the point for a username so you don't have to share you phone number.

with whatsapp your phone number is not supposed to be shared with random strangers, and sure if somebody has your private mobile phone number he can spam you but that is not supposed to happen, and i imagine that whatsapp blocks that behavior if you try to do in for multiple users. with telegram i saw groups with 50k members added this way because there is a api for this, but there is no api for whatsapp and i think they block you after x tries or reports. the problem is much bigger with telegram.

Re: RssHub – A feed aggregator that can generate feeds from pretty much everything

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Post by jasonkostempski »

grumph wrote: post #21
vsund wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is exactly what I don't understand about all the feed readers out there. It seems so obvious that the next step for feed readers would be social interactions like sharing, also it would be to easy to add I guess. Additionally the aspect of consuming YouTube via RSS feed. Feed readers could simply add small logic which transforms a given YouTube account into one of https://www.youtube.com/feeds/videos.xml?channel…

You can add the RSS feed of a youtube channel with the Tiny Tiny RSS bookmarklet, it's working for most channels, but not all for a reason I don't understand yet.

YouTube channel feeds, if they have one, are at: www.youtube.com/feeds/videos.xml?channel_id={channel_id} Some channels have a custom url and the id isn't obvious but it should be in the page source somewhere.

For example, "It's Okay To Be Smart" is at "www.youtube.com/user/itsokaytobesmart". Right click, view page source, search for "/channel/". That finds """ rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCH4BNI0-FOK2dMXoFtViWHw">". So the feed url is:

    https://www.youtube.com/feeds/videos.xml?channel_id=UCH4BNI0-FOK2dMXoFtViWHw

Re: RssHub – A feed aggregator that can generate feeds from pretty much everything

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Post by tannhaeuser »

vsund wrote: post #20
cyborgx7 wrote: post #12

How come noone has managed to crack the RSS rock yet? Everything has an RSS feed (though it's decreasing). Rss readers have more content than any social network. It seems like you should be able to build something with this that has broad adoption. There has to be something missing. My theory has been for a while that what is missing is publishing. People don't just want to consume, they also want to share what they…

This is exactly what I don't understand about all the feed readers out there. It seems so obvious that the next step for feed readers would be social interactions like sharing, also it would be to easy to add I guess. Additionally the aspect of consuming YouTube via RSS feed. Feed readers could simply add small logic which transforms a given YouTube account into one of https://www.youtube.com/feeds/videos.xml?channel…

RSS is used by those who aren't into "social" addiction, but just want a quick listing of relevant news from a super-simple news feed (as in "really simple syndication"). A couple years ago Google embraced, extended and almost extinguished RSS, so I'm not sure RSS users are willing to obtain/share their feed URLs from a pointless central service; just go to the web sites you're reading frequently, check if they have an RSS feed announced in their HTML metadata (as indicated by an RSS symbol in eg. FF), and add the URL to your feeds.

Re: RssHub – A feed aggregator that can generate feeds from pretty much everything

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Post by tannhaeuser »

AltruisticGap wrote: post #25
cyborgx7 wrote: post #12

How come noone has managed to crack the RSS rock yet? Everything has an RSS feed (though it's decreasing). Rss readers have more content than any social network. It seems like you should be able to build something with this that has broad adoption. There has to be something missing. My theory has been for a while that what is missing is publishing. People don't just want to consume, they also want to share what they…

Simple: - most RSS readers suck so bad you can't even retrieve years old articles. So if you follow blogs that don't post often, you simply can NOT get any of their older posts. Imagine a blog that has one seriously good article once a month. Typically you can't get more than a year's worth of posts, so that's like 12 articles. Why? - the best RSS app I had on iPad let me archive feeds for a LONG time. I used it as a…

You're free to develop an RSS reader with those features yourself. RSS is - on paper - an extremely simple protocol, but since many feeds are broken (not wellformed/improperly escaped XML, often incompetently copied from HTML, with spam, etc. etc.), RSS readers must integrate individual feeds almost on a case-by-case basis, with feed-specific fixes and heuristics. And there goes your project budget. Considering RSS isn't exactly growing (because the number of valuable news site isn't neither), the state of RSS is as good or bad as it always has been. I don't know if that is actually a good thing, because when big media (Google) last turned their eye towards it, it monopolized and almost ruined it.

Re: RssHub – A feed aggregator that can generate feeds from pretty much everything

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Post by rakoo »

older wrote: post #15
cyborgx7 wrote: post #12

How come noone has managed to crack the RSS rock yet? Everything has an RSS feed (though it's decreasing). Rss readers have more content than any social network. It seems like you should be able to build something with this that has broad adoption. There has to be something missing. My theory has been for a while that what is missing is publishing. People don't just want to consume, they also want to share what they…

Isn't ActivityPub supposed to fill the gap?

Yeah its predecessor, OStatus, was pretty much that: you start with a feed of anything, then you add another feed for the reader to comment, then a way to send the comment back to the source so everyone can see it, and lo and behold you've got yourself a social network brewing. Activitypub is a rethinking of the whole thing with clear requirements and specs instead of some informal pieces added here and there, which is a good thing. Except all the existing RSS feeds can't be used as such.

Re: RssHub – A feed aggregator that can generate feeds from pretty much everything

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Post by bhrgunatha »

jasonkostempski wrote: post #42
grumph wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can add the RSS feed of a youtube channel with the Tiny Tiny RSS bookmarklet, it's working for most channels, but not all for a reason I don't understand yet.

YouTube channel feeds, if they have one, are at: www.youtube.com/feeds/videos.xml?channel_id={channel_id} Some channels have a custom url and the id isn't obvious but it should be in the page source somewhere. For example, "It's Okay To Be Smart" is at "www.youtube.com/user/itsokaytobesmart". Right click, view page source, search for "/channel/". That finds " "" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCH4BNI0…

I'm not sure what the relationship between channels and users is. I think it's many-to-many and I'm aware of 3 feed types:

    https://www.youtube.com/feeds/videos.xml?user=  
    https://www.youtube.com/feeds/videos.xml?channel_id=  
    https://www.youtube.com/feeds/videos.xml?playlist_id=
Would love to hear if there are more.
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