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Maybe Your Sleep Problem Isn’t a Problem

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Re: Maybe Your Sleep Problem Isn’t a Problem

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Post by rootusrootus »

pseudalopex wrote: post #88
danvasquez29 wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

as an early riser myself, what bothers me about this is that I personally feel like I'm only talking about because someone else is making a big deal out of it. I don't think I go out of my way to bring the topic up, but I'm constantly getting people saying things like "omg I saw when you sent that email/made that commit/whatever, do you ever sleep", and then I gotta say something like "well I was up at 5 so I knocked…

"I was up at 5 so I knocked it out before I drove in" comes across differently than "I was up at 5, but I go to bed around 9:30, so it evens out".

Just goes to show that as careful as we ought to be to make sure what we say is reasonable, we should also be careful to keep our interpretations charitable.

Re: Maybe Your Sleep Problem Isn’t a Problem

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Post by kking50 »

mmaunder wrote: post #22

What really bugs me is the self-righteousness of the early riser. There's definitely some kind of power dynamic going on. Perhaps the joke should be: How do you know if someone gets up at 5am? Because they tell you.

I've found that people who stay up late also tend to tell you [edit: and brag] about it. For example, if a friend is out late partying you're almost guaranteed to hear about how late they stayed out the next day.

I think it goes both ways because people want to justify why they are not at 100% energy. Partly to not offend others when you're being abnormally unenthusiastic. A type of social defense mechanism.

Re: Maybe Your Sleep Problem Isn’t a Problem

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Post by k__ »

adrianmonk wrote: post #95
k__ wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't what you saying exactly the problem mmaunder talked about? I like to sleep from 3-12 and I like to take naps at 18. This has nothing to do with me being unable to do a job or being not intersted in it. I worked for a bunch of people who gave me a hard time for not being awake at 9.

> Isn't what you saying exactly the problem mmaunder talked about? I was trying to make a distinction between perceptions of character and perceptions of attitude. Though not everyone agrees, many people see waking up early as a valuable part of being self-disciplined and hardworking. That's a perception about character. But that can't account for perceptions people have around events that happen in the afternoon or…

I see, okay.

Yeah, I wish it was different tho' :/

Re: Maybe Your Sleep Problem Isn’t a Problem

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Post by Tharkun »

Bartweiss wrote: post #91
macNchz wrote: post #15

The author's experience is very similar to my own–my parents called me 'the sleepless wonder' when I was a kid, and by high school getting out of bed for morning classes was excruciating. In college I mostly chose classes that started later in the day and wound up doing much better academically. Since college I've made a point of taking jobs that offer flexible hours, which thankfully seems to be increasingly common.…

> by high school getting out of bed for morning classes was excruciating. In college I mostly chose classes that started later in the day and wound up doing much better academically. I spent high school thinking I was exceptionally prone to getting songs stuck in my head. It turns out that I just get them stuck in my head when I'm extremely tired, and that state was so continuous that I never noticed there were times…

I lived on 4hrs/night when I was 15-16. I had so many wonderfully interesting things to do, discover and work on. I don't recall ever feeling tired at that age, and I wish I could go back to that level of drive and energy.

Re: Maybe Your Sleep Problem Isn’t a Problem

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Post by tareqak »

mmaunder wrote: post #22

What really bugs me is the self-righteousness of the early riser. There's definitely some kind of power dynamic going on. Perhaps the joke should be: How do you know if someone gets up at 5am? Because they tell you.

How about everyone knowing what the word 'nocturnal' means, but they can't think of the word describing the opposite behaviour and resorting to using the word 'normal'.

nocturnal - Done, occurring, or active at night. [0]

diurnal - 1. Of or during the day. 2. Daily; of each day. [1]

crepuscular - Resembling or relating to twilight. [2]

[0] https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/nocturnal [1] https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/diurnal [2] https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/crepuscular

Re: Maybe Your Sleep Problem Isn’t a Problem

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Post by aaronmdjones »

pg_bot wrote: post #25

I'm the only person I've encountered that naturally runs on a 25 hour clock. I get the same amount of sleep per day (~8 hours) but I follow it with 17 hours of wakefulness so my clock moves forward by an hour every day. To my knowledge there are no adverse health effects, but it's certainly out of the ordinary. I often wonder if more people are like me since sleep problems are so common, but they cannot follow their…

I'm at somewhere between 24 and 26 hours a "day". It varies over the course of several weeks.

Re: Maybe Your Sleep Problem Isn’t a Problem

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Post by dang »

kazagistar wrote: post #72
5partan wrote: post #66

First of all, I wouldn’t consider someone who sleeps from 2a.m. To 10a.m. A night owl, everything before noon is stil morning for me :) And why do those articles never mention daylight saving time or the fact that that there is a 3 hour difference between sunrise in winter and summer? I’m pretty sure DNA doesn’t care about fixed time schedules but that it rather synchronizes to natural sun and moon light. I’m convinc…

Nice gatekeeping.

Please don't do this here.
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