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Anki: Memorization with Spaced Learning

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Re: Anki: Memorization with Spaced Learning

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I'm always a little confused when I see articles on the internet extolling the virtues of spaced repetition learning. I don't doubt that it's a good way to memorize things; it's just that I have never really found that memorization was ever an obstacle to my ability to learn something. I've always found that retention proceeds from understanding . Time spent flicking through flashcards for vocabulary or formulae or c…

I've been using Anki for a few years, here are my thoughts on your questions:

> I have never really found that memorization was ever an obstacle to my ability to learn something.

I think it depends what you are learning, for example when learning languages I find a lot of the difficulty is just in retaining the words.

Another place where I've found it useful is for memorizing definitions in (pure) mathematics. To be able to read the later parts of a book you need a good working knowledge of earlier definitions. You could look back for the definitions every time, but that breaks the flow of reading.

> I've always found that retention proceeds from understanding.

Yeah, I find that too. But this is something that I do after understanding something to help retain it better and for longer.

> Time spent flicking through flashcards for vocabulary or formulae or chemical paths or whatever seems like a poor substitute for time spent reading material that uses the vocabulary ...

The time I spend on memorization is very small, less than 5 minutes a day, and I usually do it on my phone while I'm waiting for something. It replaces checking reddit or playing phone games rather than deep reading of interesting material.

Re: Anki: Memorization with Spaced Learning

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Sounds like the way you use Anki is more of a learning supplementary rather than a singular tool? Like you are learning of words elsewhere and entering them into Anki for memorization once you have learned about them? I’m just curious. I’d like to use Anki to get better at reading and playing chords (on keyboard / piano) from symbol notation but I haven’t started yet. Would you recommend learning each chord one by on…

I've tried using Anki for music and I don't think it works very well. You want to drill chords so your fingers don't forget them. If you get the flash card right you will only see it once. Flash cards may help with learning chords, but spaced repetition flash cards will not.

I would recommend putting in chord progressions (like in a normal song) rather than single chords. Also make sure to actually form the chords, either on the piano (definitely much better), or on the table (in a pinch). This will allow you to learn the chords in context and give your hands muscle memory, especially with common transitions.

Re: Anki: Memorization with Spaced Learning

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I've used Anki over the past 8 years or so very successfully. I strongly recommend it to anyone learning a language. Here are some tips to get the most out of it: * Only put things you know into Anki. An individual Anki card should feel a little too easy when you make it. * Put in words with a good amount of context. Avoid single words as much as possible. The quickest way to do this is to just input the sentence fro…

Sounds like the way you use Anki is more of a learning supplementary rather than a singular tool? Like you are learning of words elsewhere and entering them into Anki for memorization once you have learned about them? I’m just curious. I’d like to use Anki to get better at reading and playing chords (on keyboard / piano) from symbol notation but I haven’t started yet. Would you recommend learning each chord one by on…

Anki is king of med schools, and was huge among my classmates back then. The first thing you learn after failing to use it right for a while:

Anki is for retention, not learning. If you haven’t internalized what you’re flashcarding, it’s not going to stick just because you’re using spaced repetition.

Re: Anki: Memorization with Spaced Learning

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>electronic text with the help of an instant dictionary lookup tool (hover the mouse over anything to get to the reading and meanings instantly) Can you tell me what text you were reading and what tool you were using? This sounds like exactly what I have been looking for my japanese learning.

Not the OP, but the reality is that you can read anything that interests you. Especially when you are starting, the first few thousand common words are incredibly common. So you'll get those over and over and over again. The main problem is that depending on what grammar is present, you may have difficulties. There is something called the "natural order hypothesis" that states that the order in which people acquire t…

Thanks a lot for the tips. Really appreciate it.

Re: Anki: Memorization with Spaced Learning

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I'm always a little confused when I see articles on the internet extolling the virtues of spaced repetition learning. I don't doubt that it's a good way to memorize things; it's just that I have never really found that memorization was ever an obstacle to my ability to learn something. I've always found that retention proceeds from understanding . Time spent flicking through flashcards for vocabulary or formulae or c…

> poor substitute for time spent reading material that uses the vocabulary You can't effectively read material without having enough vocabulary to cover at least some 80% of it. My most recent language learning experience is Japanese. The difference between trying to read before cramming on an ~8000 word vocabulary and after is night and day. And the comparison basis here is not reading hardcopy, but electronic text…

> reading hardcopy, but electronic text with the help of an instant dictionary lookup tool (hover the mouse over anything to get to the reading and meanings instantly)

Care to share the tool you use to read and the dictionary tool?

Re: Anki: Memorization with Spaced Learning

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I found Anki the only software that can easily make flash cards using LaTeX. I typically have a lot of equations and I prefer to write my cards using the outlines package in LaTeX. It makes it very easy to write bulleted lists. https://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/outlin...

In the latest version of Anki, the LaTeX is rendered using SVG and looks great on Retina and HiDPI screens without having large file sizes.

I know others who maintain their cards/latex in a text file and import the changes rather than working in the Anki software for creating and maintaining cards.

Re: Anki: Memorization with Spaced Learning

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I really like the idea of spaced repetition learning, but it's the little details that are driving me crazy. I cannot get Anki working on Raspberry Pi. (I have a Raspberry Pi connected to a TV in front of my rowing machine so I can study while I'm exercising.) I tried Mnemosyne but I can't get the sync server working, and I'm disappointed in the formatting options provided. I tried org-drill but adding images to card…

There's a third-party web client mentioned elsewhere in this thread: https://ankimono.com/ I haven't tried it so not sure if it syncs with AnkiWeb and really works as a full-fledged client, but it sounds like a fitting solution for your stack. --- By the way, there are bluetooth remotes/joypads for one hand, e.g. Zeemote or mini gaming pads [0] — they may be more comfortable to use with Anki and the TV while exercisi…

Pretty sure that ankimono site is a knock-off. It doesn't seem to be affiliated with Anki in any way, at least.

Re: Anki: Memorization with Spaced Learning

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I really like the https://ankimono.com webapp, although creating your own clone is a great way to learn a new framework or language.

That's a clozed-source knockoff of Anki. With SRS it's important that you choose a solution that will still be working in 5, 10, or even 20 years. Anki being open-source and sporting an open format fits that bill. Also, it has a proper desktop app, so you never need to worry about losing access to your data ahead of an important exam, etc.

Re: Anki: Memorization with Spaced Learning

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I've been using Anki for some time and I love it but it's not a perfect tool. What I especially like is it's flexibility when it comes to designing flashcards. You can adjust colors, font-sizes and pretty much every visual aspect using css code. You can even embed your own font within a deck, which can come in handy when you are dealing with Japanese kanji (Printed and handwritten kanji sometimes differ and iPhone co…

> Another problem (with the algorithm, not Anki itself) is that it's very easy to forget what you've just learned if you don't keep using the app. It's super easy to learn hundreds of vocabulary within a short period of time and pass the exam, but you need to keep reviewing the deck for at least a year, otherwise you'll forget it as quickly as you've learned it.

Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that this is a problem with human memory in general?

Re: Anki: Memorization with Spaced Learning

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The iphone app costs like $25 tho.

There’s now a free app that seems to do the same thing.

If you mean the one on iOS, that's a proprietary knock-off that's pretty terrible: https://anki.tenderapp.com/kb/anki-ecosystem/ankiapp-is-not-...
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