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Re: From GNU social to Mastodon

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Post by egypturnash »

ifur wrote: post #35

For the social part to really work, you need a community to adopt it. Not just an internet community. Good to see alternatives to Twitter however. Generally don't like AJAX, it's JS and XML, and in the latter case Twitter services don't require Stylesheets or XLS as it's called -- without -- XML is bloated and creates metadata for sale. In addition to AJAX allowing Orwellian advertisement influence. Edit: this gets d…

do you know how many queer furries are on mastodon right now holy crap, that is definitely a community

Also um I think pretty much the entire fediverse is free of ads right now.

Re: From GNU social to Mastodon

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Post by skybrian »

jancsika wrote: post #43
skybrian wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like it too, but having used it casually for about a week, I'm wondering how you visit different communities without creating multiple accounts? It should be as easy as visiting a different subreddit. (I do know that you can subscribe to individuals in other instances, but haven't done that yet.)

Let me see if I understand the problem. alice register on instance "music" alice wants to see what's up on instance "books" Is the problem that the default behavior of Mastodon requires alice to register a new account on "books" just to see that instance's timeline?

There is a limited "A look inside" view in each Mastodon instance's web interface, but it doesn't compare to reading a subreddit anonymously where you can basically read everything without joining.

More generally, my question is how do you meet people who are talking about something interesting to you? (Considering that there aren't many people using Mastodon yet, I don't expect to chat with people I know.)

The web forum/subreddit model makes it considerably easier to find interesting subject-based communities. This doesn't seem to be what Mastodon was designed for, but it seems like a good idea.

Re: From GNU social to Mastodon

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Post by rainbowmverse »

y2bd wrote: post #17
skybrian wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like it too, but having used it casually for about a week, I'm wondering how you visit different communities without creating multiple accounts? It should be as easy as visiting a different subreddit. (I do know that you can subscribe to individuals in other instances, but haven't done that yet.)

There’s a beta iOS app called Toot that solves this by letting you add timelines for instances you don’t have an account on. If you try interacting with anyone on that timeline, it asks you if you want to use one of your other accounts to handle that interaction. Don’t know if any other clients offer this. Link: https://mastodon.social/@tootapp

10,000 prototype apps/mockups sprung up (a good thing) after mastodon.design popped up. Some of them are bound to launch with this feature.

Re: From GNU social to Mastodon

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Post by dx87 »

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #29
oopsman88 wrote: post #3

With all of its faults, I'll take Twitter and its almost free speech over Mastodon any day. Many people say they are quitting Twitter because of the algorithmic timeline and so on, and they are going to Mastodon where a cabal of people choose to ban opinions that are perfectly legal.

I can't help but notice that you, complaining about “free speech”, have “88” at the end of your name. Wonder what kind of speech (which you only defend by its supposed legality) you're concerned about being banned.

Are you seriously implying that someone is a nazi just because they have the number 88 in their name? I have the number 87 in my name, what does that tell you about me?

You're a perfect example of what they're complaining about. They've said nothing even remotely offensive, just that they don't agree with shared block lists, and you've already decided that they're wrong and a nazi. I've seen people get added to shared block lists on twitter just because they commented on a thread saying that they both political parties in the US should work together instead of being so devisive, so it's not like only trolls and abusive people get added to those lists.

I hope you enjoy your self-imposed bubble, where everyone you disagree with is a nazi.

Re: From GNU social to Mastodon

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Post by rainbowmverse »

egypturnash wrote: post #61
ifur wrote: post #35

For the social part to really work, you need a community to adopt it. Not just an internet community. Good to see alternatives to Twitter however. Generally don't like AJAX, it's JS and XML, and in the latter case Twitter services don't require Stylesheets or XLS as it's called -- without -- XML is bloated and creates metadata for sale. In addition to AJAX allowing Orwellian advertisement influence. Edit: this gets d…

do you know how many queer furries are on mastodon right now holy crap, that is definitely a community Also um I think pretty much the entire fediverse is free of ads right now.

I've probably seen more furballs in ~2 years of Mastodon than I did in years of furry Twtter.

Re: From GNU social to Mastodon

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Post by ad_hominem »

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #29
oopsman88 wrote: post #3

With all of its faults, I'll take Twitter and its almost free speech over Mastodon any day. Many people say they are quitting Twitter because of the algorithmic timeline and so on, and they are going to Mastodon where a cabal of people choose to ban opinions that are perfectly legal.

I can't help but notice that you, complaining about “free speech”, have “88” at the end of your name. Wonder what kind of speech (which you only defend by its supposed legality) you're concerned about being banned.

Maybe they were born in 1988?

Maybe they play the piano (88 keys)?

Maybe they're a ham radio operator ("love and kisses")?

Maybe they're a big Kill Bill fan (Crazy 88s)?

Maybe they think it's a lucky number (Chinese culture)?

There's a million possibilities[1] besides this baseless ad hominem attack in which you're implying they're a neo-nazi. This moral panic over white supremacists supposedly hiding under every bed is really tiring.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/88_(number)

Re: From GNU social to Mastodon

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Post by [deleted] »

dx87 wrote: post #64
TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't help but notice that you, complaining about “free speech”, have “88” at the end of your name. Wonder what kind of speech (which you only defend by its supposed legality) you're concerned about being banned.

Are you seriously implying that someone is a nazi just because they have the number 88 in their name? I have the number 87 in my name, what does that tell you about me? You're a perfect example of what they're complaining about. They've said nothing even remotely offensive, just that they don't agree with shared block lists, and you've already decided that they're wrong and a nazi. I've seen people get added to share…

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Re: From GNU social to Mastodon

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Post by [deleted] »

CharlesW wrote: post #56
TheJoYo wrote: post #22

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I follow people on blacklisted instances and have no problems viewing their posts. Counter Social seems to be a walled garden but it suits their mission statement. EDIT: the article mentions shitposter.club as a blacklisted instance. I've been following https://shitposter.club/moonman for years with only minor migration issues.

> Counter Social seems to be a walled garden but it suits their mission statement. It's not, but counter.social users are blacklisted by Mastodon folks who don't like how th3j35t3r[1] is running his Mastodon node. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jester_(hacktivist)

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Re: From GNU social to Mastodon

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Post by ad_hominem »

I tried Mastodon early on and it was pretty slow, which I assume is due to it being a Ruby on Rails app that probably wasn't heavily optimized. Probably also partly due to there only being a handful of popular instances so the inrush of users weren't being spread out very much. Anyone still encountering that?

A fairly popular instance also crashed and lost all accounts, toots etc.: https://web.archive.org/web/20180325132625/https://mastodon....

Re: From GNU social to Mastodon

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Post by mirimir »

CharlesW wrote: post #16
Barrin92 wrote: post #10

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people have the freedom to associate in communities that censor if they are okay with it. You don't curse in a church, yet plenty of people find them pleasant to visit. People definitely should have the ability to put restrictive rules in place in place if the association with that community is voluntary, and nobody forces you to use mastodon. I find strictly moderated communities very pleasant because I have no inte…

> people have the freedom to associate in communities that censor if they are okay with it. You'd think, but no. Some instances are run by "free speech absolutists" (in quotes, because they're really not) who block instances which, in their opinion, are "too aggressive" about blocking spam and bad actors. For example, mastodon.social blocks counter.social, preventing all counter.social users from federating with mast…

OK, I'm convinced that Mastodon is evil. I'm quite able to avoid what I don't like. And I don't want anyone else deciding for me.

Edit: Damn, that was a stupid comment, but I'll leave it as penance. I just wasn't seeing that Mastodon is perfectly setup for compartmentalization. So my Mirimir persona would have an account on some instance that focused on privacy, security and anonymity. And I would be protected from off-topic trolls. But I could have other unlinked personas on other instances, with different topics and blocking criteria. That's very cool.

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